Dear All,

I've posted a few versions of an image on the darktable-users list
that show that with dt 1.6.1 (from the 'stable' Ubuntu PPA) the
shadows and highlights tool set to shadows = -100 (and, as it turns
out, highlights = -100), combined with a large radius and small
compression will *lighten* parts of an image, which seems to be
contradictory with what the manual says, and also quite
counter-intuitive. The guidance I received on the users list,
including Robert Huttons great video tutorials, have been useful in
general, but don't answer the specific questions.

Please don't take this double-posting as whining or complaining
aggressively, I'd just like to learn about dt.

I'd like to know:
- is this a bug or a feature? If it's a feature, I'm happy with it, it
has given me an effective way to bring out shadow details (create two
instances of shadows/highlights, set one to shadows = -100, highlights
= 0, the other the other to shadows = 0, highlights = -100; set both
to compress = 0, radius = 200, merge: uniformly in lighten mode); if a
bug, I won't rely on it; [a single instance, with both set to -100,
does not work, it darkens the image as expected]
- if a feature, the geek in me would like to know why this happens.

It turns out that shadow > 0 can also darken some parts of the image
(which, again, is quite counter-intuitive and against what the manual
says).

The example for darkening with shadows > 0 is:
http://photos.kovacs-telekes.org/Other/Darktable-issues/Shadowshighlights20140105/i-MTZ7RR7/0/O/05-eye_closeup_radius40_compress20.jpg
http://photos.kovacs-telekes.org/Other/Darktable-issues/Shadowshighlights20140105/i-Qgn2vJc/0/O/06-eye_closeup_without_sh.jpg

In Gimp, using the colour picker with a 'sample average' of 10 at
coordinates [680;545] (corner of the eye) I get (R, G, B) pixels =
(134, 94, 80) for the '06-...without_sh' image and (129, 90, 76) for
the 05 (sh enabled) image.

For lightening with shadows < 0 is:
http://photos.kovacs-telekes.org/Other/Darktable-issues/Shadowshighlights20140105/i-Nm3bJHh/0/O/08-eye_closeup_radius40_compress20_shadows-100.jpg
Again, in Gimp, you can compare the brightness of the blemish
(birthmark) above the eye between 05 (sh disabled) and 08 (sh enabled
with shadow = -100). Reading identical positions with averaged
sampling, I get (197, 161, 145) on 08 and (183, 146, 131) on 05. (The
measurement is not as straight-forward in this case, as I had to
manually align 05 and 08, as DT crashed during the process and I
failed to position the preview window at the exact same pixels).

Thanks in advance,

Kofa

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