I think what Romano mentioned is close to what happens indeed.

Just FYI... by default - I use "standard color matrix" in input profile and gamut clipping is "off". This produced quite strong blue color (but it so happen that it works for me - I like it). I expected when CBS module is on - it would continue pushing the colors in certain direction (but only if I change values).

Then when johannes hanika mentioned

as soon as you enable any module that makes reasonable assumptions
about Lab (like, L >= 0), you'd clip the values to the gamut of Lab,
I realized that most likely this is affecting the results - the assumption by the module.

Further I tested with what Tobias mentioned

Try enabling the
gamut clipping in the input color profile (2nd dropdown there). Set it to
"linear Rec2020 RGB" for a start.
and it brought the color to be on the bluish side. Not only that - it also resulted in turning on CBS module with 0,0,0 to not affect the image (so it worked as I expected).

Then I changed the clipping from Rec2020 to sRGB and the result was purple (but again - CBS would behave well - it would not change the image when with 0,0,0)

And this leads me back to what Johannes pointed - that some modules make reasonable assumption.

I guess - for a better control - I would have to enforce gamut clipping on the input color profile module. The thing is - it can differ from one image to another. So - likely I will have to pay more attention to it (and to the out of gamut colors).

My final image is with the suggestion from Tobias.

Regards,

B


On 2017-05-18 01:20 PM, Patrick Rudin wrote:
johannes hanika wrote:
these out-of-gamut/imaginary stimuli result in negative L values in
the pipeline.
Could you explain a bit further how exactly this negative L-value is
created? I always thought the camera-specific profile is a kind of LUT,
but obviously it is a bit more complicated :)

I know that all extreme values in a or b-channel are out of gamut in
sRGB, but how can a clipping in the blue camera-channel lead to a
negative L-value?


Regards

Patrick
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