> That's Linux. That's the world we live in. One must know about everything, > must compile things, must deal with compilations and installations of > libraries and installations of installations of libraries ;-)) With Linux, you have the *choice* to build up-to-date softwares et to stay on the bleeding edge. Then you have to build and install some software. Bu this is not mandatory. You can live with what your distribution offers to you.
> Don't get me wrong, I'm not pissed of ;-) I'm just thinking about how Linux > is still hundred years behind the common user. My mom, for instance. Linux is > for the braves. How old is your mom? She can be... 35 / 50 / 60 / 70 .... it is not exactly the same. But anyway, install Debian on your mom's computer, and choose a desktop manager she likes. Install her Firefox and Thunderbird, VLC, something to display pictures, evince for the pdf and this is probably enough. If this doesnt work for her, she will not be able to manage the popups for the upgrade of a software, the popups with crazy messages each time you plug an exernal device (need to be repaired), "security" messages, the usage of user / admin account, etc. I'm 63 (in few days :) )... I've nothing but LInux (and a small Windows on a notebook to be able to update some firmwares). For my wife, for instance, every computer / smartphone, computer is for the braves… I'm one of the braves... My mother in law has never got a keyboard under her fingers My mother had a computer, a scanner, a printer, a smartphone, an IPad, … Yes, this is not Linux. I can remember the switch from Windows 7 to Windows 10. I can remember the update that doesnt work as expected and the unbootable machine. Windows needs also some maintenance. And worse, it does the maintenance from itself, and eat all the passband on the local network while doing so. My kids uses Windows or Mac OSX… everybody can make her/his choice. Then it has to assume this choice. Well, probably Linux is not the perfect sofware. But only the enthusiasts are doing more than USING it. 2018-04-19 14:34 GMT+02:00 Anton Aylward <[email protected]>: > On 18/04/18 07:40 PM, André Felipe Carvalho wrote: > > > > That's Linux. That's the world we live in. One must know about > everything, > > must compile things, must deal with compilations and installations of > > libraries and installations of installations of libraries ;-)) > > "Must"? what's with this "must"? > I've never had to compile DT or lensfun or anything else about Linux ... > not for > over ten years, and that was a matter of my personal amusement. As far as > the > 'must' goes, it must be out near the 25 year mark, and that was, as they > say, a > matter of 'gainful employment'. > > The only 'must' I've had about DT is following Patrick's advice on the > distribution to use for the latest update, some of his advice on modules > and > some of Tobias's advice on reading the user manual. But then RTFM is > *always* a > 'must', isn't it :-) > > > Don't get me wrong, I'm not pissed of ;-) I'm just thinking about how > Linux > > is still hundred years behind the common user. My mom, for instance. > Linux is > > for the braves. > > And yet I hear from many people who they installed it for their Mom, their > grandparents and more, who had no problems with it. I think of all the > embedded > systems, from my cell phone and router to the local traffic lights > controller, > that run Linux and give no problems. > > > > I'm a programmer, also. Java, wicket, html, that kind of stuff. And a > linux > > fan and even more of dt. But ... sometimes... it's so hard to live in > this > > world... > > I wonder at times ... There's the old saying about 'if the only tool you > have is > a hammer, then you see every problem as a nail'. Perhaps the issue here > is that > you *are* a programmer and so see the solution in terms of the > programming/compiling cycle, whereas those of us who are of a primarily > photographic mindset don't. > > -- > Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Give him a religion, > and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish. > --Timothy Jones > ____________________________________________________________ > ________________ > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscribe@ > lists.darktable.org > > ____________________________________________________________________________ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to [email protected]
