Bear, No, I think when Aurelien wrote the description for how to use the Filmic module (apologies if I'm putting words in his mouth, here... just trying to explain MY reading of it!), he said "expose to the right" in the sense that you should ensure NOT to clip highlights. In other words, if your camera has a tendency to expose a little too aggressively to the right, you might want to dial in some under-exposure to ensure that NO highlights get clipped. This will ensure that the Filmic module can do its best work on your image. Hopefully, if I've mis-interpreted it, he'll chime in here. Cheers, Bruce Williams ------------------------------ Mobile: +61 41 250 6349
audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail <[email protected]> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> ------------------------------ ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Bear <[email protected]> Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 3:13 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] 2.6 Manual To: Bruce Williams <[email protected]> Is this meaning it's changing how my shot turns out in raw? Bear On 10-Mar-19 06:35, Bruce Williams wrote: I think I wrote too compulsively in my last e-mail. I guess what I meant was not so much "expose to the left", but "expose so as not to clip any highlights", which as you've said, is pretty much what the manual is saying as well. As for dark areas being recoverable, my experience is that when it comes to digital, darks recover much better than highlights. Cheers, Bruce Williams ------------------------------ Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 audio2u.com brucewilliamsphotography.com shuttersincpodcast.com sinelanguagepodcast.com e-mail <[email protected]> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> ------------------------------ ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Pete Barlow <[email protected]> Date: Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [darktable-user] 2.6 Manual To: Bruce Williams <[email protected]> Bruce, But it also says "so that the highlights are at the right of the histogram, just on the verge of clipping," which is almost a definition of ETTR. In any case I though that ETTL will mean that any detail that was in very dark areas will be lost and not recoverable by any means? *Pete Barlow* On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 11:17, Bruce Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree, Pete. > I think it SHOULD read "expose to the left". > From my reading of Aurelien Pierre's blog post on his site (he wrote the > filmic module code), I came away with the impression that filmic does it's > best work on images which are, shall we say, "conservatively" exposed... > i.e. a little under. > That's just my take, anyway. > Cheers, > Bruce Williams > ------------------------------ > Mobile: +61 41 250 6349 > > audio2u.com > brucewilliamsphotography.com > shuttersincpodcast.com > sinelanguagepodcast.com > > e-mail <[email protected]> | Twitter <http://twitter.com/@audio2u> | > LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-williams/1/318/489> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/audio2u> | Soundcloud > <http://www.soundcloud.com/audio2u> | Quora > <https://www.quora.com/profile/Bruce-Williams-5> > ------------------------------ > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Pete Barlow <[email protected]> > Date: Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 9:51 PM > Subject: [darktable-user] 2.6 Manual > To: <[email protected]> > > > I've been reading through the section on the filmic module - not sure if > these are errors or if I am misunderstanding things: > > Prerequisites - *it says expose the shot "to the right". This implies > under exposing the shot* - surely ETTR implies some over exposure? > > and then - *if the picture preview is very dark on your camera* - on my > camera at least anything with ETTR appears brighter than normal > > *Pete Barlow* > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > [email protected] > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > [email protected] > ____________________________________________________________________________ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to [email protected] ____________________________________________________________________________ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to [email protected]
