Yeah, it is a work-around, so thanks.

But if it easier/less work flow steps to bypass an essential step in post processing, why did the DT developers bother adding this functionality? Wouldn't have the  investment of time/effort be better used by making the strange, indeed unique, behaviour of the 'zoomable light table' much more in line with human factors best practice? This one feature gives me a sense of vertigo just trying to understand the overlapping functions of mouse wheel scrolling, scroll bar scrolling, sizing etc. It just seems completely wrong.

Sorry, I've gone off on a tandem, here. Anyway my preferred choice of import utility - Rapid File Downloader doesn't appear to be available under Windows and other factors (called iMatch) prevent me from getting my preferred 'set-up' in Linux

On 23/06/2020 12:43, Graham Byrnes wrote:
It's true that the notion of "home" is kind of foreign to a Windows machine... it exists, but it's user specific and I can't remember it.

However:

"This is completely different to my expectation: that the import from an SD card would place a COPY of the image somewhere on my harddrive"

So why not just do that? Copy the subfolders of your DCIM, which usually encode the date, and paste them into your "images" folder, which is visible in File Explorer. You can copy or move, according to left or right click. Then import that folder into dt.

I've never bothered with the card-reading facility, it's just one extra thing to worry about.

Cheers,
Graham


Le mar. 23 juin 2020 à 13:13, tony Hamilton <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :

    On the basis that the purpose of this mailing list is described as
    "...for all concerns of a darktable user: usage questions,
    experience reports ..."I would like some help understanding import.

    I'm failing at the first step: setting the correct parameters in
    the session options in preferences. The issue here is that my
    'Pictures' folder is not where DT assumes it to be - somewhere
    relative to my $Home folder (more comment on that later). My
    pictures folder is on an E: drive because my C-drive is a small
    SSD which is about  50% of the size of the Pictures folder. (I
    wanted to move 'appdata' off the c-drive too, to avoid so many I/O
    ops on the SSD but haven't been able to do that). I need advice on
    how to correctly set the session options for my configuration.

    Having read section 8.3 (session options) in the DT user manual I
    realise that I don't know what 'the home folder as defined by the
    system' means. In fact this whole section is written by an IT
    expert for an IT expert, not for an enthusiast home photographer
    who is (now) far, far from being an IT expert. And an IT expert
    doesn't need this sort of information anyway - so who is the
    target audience for this manual?

    What I have discovered, by pressing the 'folder' button in import,
    is a window labelled 'import film' ..wait!, what ? Ignoring this
    confusion I notice an entry in the last of places in this window
    which says 'Home' and sure enough it takes me to
    C:\Users\<myuserid>\ - where no Pictures folder exists. So how can
    DT import images to the default location
    $(PICTURES_FOLDER}\Darktable ? And, indeed I find no 'Darktable'
    folder within my E:\Pictures folder after an import attempt.

    What is one supposed to do with the symbolic addresses, like
    '$(HOME)' and '$(PICTURES_FOLDER)' ? Should I replace them with
    actual addresses, like 'E:\Pictures', as Bruce Williams suggests
    in his videos? That doesn't seem to work either.

    How do I find out what 'the home folder as defined by the system'
    means ?

    What doesn't work even more, to my expectation, than the above is
    my attempt to import  from the SD card taken from my camera: I end
    up with a collection which points to an F: drive -  the drive
    letter that is assigned when a card reader is attached to my
    system. Naturally then once the card is returned to the camera,
    attempts to edit the imported images fail with an error message
    telling me that the image is not available. This is completely
    different to my expectation: that the import from an SD card would
    place a COPY of the image somewhere on my harddrive and allow me
    to carry on using the card in the camera. Why does it not do this
    in my system?




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