* tony Hamilton <[email protected]> [07-25-20 08:56]:
> Gosh, the more I venture into DT the more I'm told about "Gotcha's"  -
> things that happen that I have no awareness of or preparedness for. Makes me
> nervous about the results.
> 
> The latest is to learn that presets will survive the re-installation of DT,
> even though I clear the DT cache and delete the .raw.xmp file and replace
> the original file and its .xmp sidecar. The monochrome module just happened
> to be somewhere I started to 'play' with DT. It bothers me that it has a
> locked preset that I cannot delete - is that being applied to every
> (matching) image that I newly open? As previously posted in this 'forum', 
> DT appears to be unable to find any matching image from my portfolio when it
> comes to 'auto-apply' one of my own monochrome presets, but that didn't stop
> the appearance of the monochrome module in the history stack of every newly
> opened image and some changes to the mage, without it being converted to
> black and white. That preset was deleted because I was just unable to make
> it work as I expected but it appears that its legacy lives on. Very
> unsettling..
> 
> On 25/07/2020 09:19, Remco Viëtor wrote:
> > On samedi 25 juillet 2020 09:15:21 CEST tony Hamilton wrote:
> > > Correct, previously I was trying to get monochrome applied
> > > automatically. But, aside from knowing that I was not trying to do that
> > > in this case, please note that I have not said the whole image is in
> > > monochrome; only a selection of pixels have turned a sort of 'polluted'
> > > grey - with, apparently, some red in them.
> > When you have defined a preset to be auto-applied, it will be applied 
> > whenever
> > you open an image for the first time in the darkroom (provided the image
> > matches, of course)
> > 
> > > I don't see how this can be
> > > the result of some preset as, as part of this learning exercise, I have
> > > performed a clean install of DT and all my test images, newly copied
> > > from LightRoom.
> > A clean install means that you also removed the old database and 
> > configuration
> > files? Note that some of these can be hidden (~/.config/darktable/* under
> > linux, no idea where to find such files for MS-Windows).
> > 
> > > None of this answers the question of how did the
> > > monochrome module get into the history stack in the first place.
> > Well, that part *was* answered by Patrick Shanahan...
> > As you seemed to have set up a preset to be auto-applied to "matching 
> > images",
> > that preset will still exist, *and be applied*, when you just re-install the
> > program.
> > Btw, did you follow the suggestion from Patrick, starting darktable with
> > "  darktable --library :memory: "?
> > Among other things, you won't get any preset applied on importing an image/
> > folder.
> > 
> > > Of
> > > course one valid explanation is that I am so intellectually stunted that
> > > I do things  without realising it or perform actions with no idea of
> > > their consequences. If this were the case,  would I be able to use DT at
> > > all?
> > I'd rather not comment on this.
> > 
> > Remco
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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that your preferences survive a removal and reinstall is normal in the
software world.  That many of us do not know the window location of these
files is understandable, even you apparently do not or you would have
moved or deleted them to achieve a clean new environment.

locked presets are designed as they are required for dt to properly
process your images.  this too is not an abnormal situation.

as we cannot see your "configuration", commenting on how you achieve what
you really do not want is somewhat difficult.

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