Terry,

 

that slower response on zoomed out images in the darkroom GUI does not seem to be associated with lack of GPU processing (as I wrongly suspected).  I only see my GPU less loaded for a longer period when zooming out, when compared to exporting. Exporting gives higher load but during a shorter period.

 

In this situation I try different numerical values (right click + number entry) until I reach the preferred setting, instead of moving sliders.

 

I installed dt 3.0.2 on my Windows laptop on June 22nd of this year, having in mind to test it without specific or high expectations.  Now I am getting inclined to give up my use of Lightroom (5.7) in favor of darktable 3.2.1.  I still have a lot to learn, but dt has capabilities that crush the LR capabilities: tone equaliser, contrast equaliser, … … and masking/blending in all modules.

 

I am very grateful to all the developers for having put their time, science, knowledge and art into it.  It’s wonderful.

 

Marc.

 

Van: Marc Cabuy
Verzonden: woensdag 19 augustus 2020 7:21
Aan: Thierry Rakotoarivelo
CC: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [darktable-user] v.3.2.1 slow when re-editing a photo (Win10)

 

Terry,

That response time issue between the 2 versions may be the case for me too. However after upgrading I can't compare anymore, since I deleted all my 3.0.2 edits (I am a newbie and consider all I did as learning material). One possibility is that on a zoomed-out image the math is done in the cpu rather than in the gpu. I suspect this because of the much faster reponse of the export versus the response on the zoomed-out image. Not sure how I can monitor this, but I will try in the coming days.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Marc.

 


Op 19 aug. 2020 om 01:46 heeft Thierry Rakotoarivelo <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven:

Thanks Marc and others that sent direct inputs.

 

Your comment @Marc made me test a few scenarios, and indeed it seems like the issue comes with v 3.2.1 when I re-edit an already edited (zoomed-out) image with a history stack comprising +40 items (similar to you including multiple instances of the same module). I note that I did not get such a slow response on the same image with the same history stack with v 3.0.* though.

 

I found that compressing the history stack greatly mitigate the issue, e.g. on an image with +60 history items (a poorly exposed green-ish underwater photo with lots of backscatter), hitting Compress History reduces the stack to 25-ish items, and the module sliders become much more responsive upon re-editing. It is still not as smooth on the same image (with compressed stack) as with v 3.0.*. However, it's smooth enough to be usable and I decided to re-upgrade to and use v 3.2.1.

 

(the puzzling thing is that during the 1st original edit session of such an image with +60 items in the history stack, the sliders of all used modules and new instances are very responsive... so maybe there are some processing strategies used at that time that are not later used on re-edit? I might post this note on the devs on their github project)

 

Thanks again for your inputs!

Cheers,

T.

 

 

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 12:45 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

Thierry,

 

I am a newbie since July. 

 

FYI my current dt 3.2.1 response time appreciation is as follows.

 

I upgraded from dt 3.0.2 to dt 3.2.1 under Windows 10.  I only see degrading response time, also on the module sliders, when zooming out on an already edited image with a large module stack with a few masks and denoise (profiled) activated (sometimes more than 1 instance). On the contrary, exporting such an image happens in only a bit more time than a fit-to-screen image change on the GUI after a module slider change. I consider this as ‘normal’ behaviour. My laptop is an high-end (kind of) gaming laptop with a discrete GPU and a (color accurate) 4K display.

 

Marc.

 

Van: Thierry Rakotoarivelo <[email protected]>
Verzonden: dinsdag 18 augustus 2020 10:05
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: [darktable-user] v.3.2.1 slow when re-editing a photo (Win10)

 

Hi all,

 

I have been running Darktable on Windows10 for a couple of years now, and very happy with it, thanks a lot to the DT team for all the work in developing and maintaining this software!

I upgraded to v 3.2.1 (from v. 3.0) last week. I had no issue with loading new photos and making adjustments to them in the Darkroom mode. However I ran into an issue when I close the software once I am done with my editing and then re-start it to re-edit the same photo.

 

So when I start such a new session of DT and try to re-edit a photo that I edited earlier, every interactions with any modules is really really slow, e.g. moving the sliders take many seconds to update on the UI control (>10 s) and then many more seconds to actually refresh the preview (>> 10 s). This is independent of the image having a history stack of a couple of steps or +10 steps. Also in the same session, if I open and edit a freshly new photo that I have not yet edited before, this problem does not happen, i.e. for the new photo the UI and Preview are responding at a "normal" speed. Thus this seems to happen only on photos that were edited in a previous session.

 

Not sure if it is relevant here, but please note that I also have "Write in XMP sidecar" option enabled.

 

Any help on solving that slowness issue with v 3.2.1 when re-opening a previously edited photo would be great! Right now I downgraded to the previous v 3.0. Thanks!

 

Cheers,

Terry.


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