I think you misunderstood. I am not a professional photographer, and I don't do photo editing every day. It would have been way less than I month if I have spent a couple of hours every day on this.

Calendar time vs. effective time.


On 2020-08-24 09:07, Kneops wrote:
Hi Michael. I agree ofcourse with what you say, but 'After a month'... is exactly what I mean. If it takes a month, something is not right. I never used LR, but opening it and - like I said - I could edit 99% of my images the way I want within 5 minutes. I even don't use Gimp anymore, unless my sensor had become too dirty ;).



Op 22-08-2020 om 22:04 schreef Mikael Ståldal:
The filmic module can be a bit intimidating and unfamiliar if you are used to Lightroom. But if you just spend a few hours watching videos and reading instructions, and practice on a dozen of your own images, you can become effective faster than you think. And it just got easier with Darktable 3.2!

After about a month of using Darktable, I feel that I can do about the same as I did in Lightroom. And I have the option to spend some additional learning effort and be able to do a lot more that was not possible with Lightroom.

So I agree with the sentiment: great and impressive work by the development team!



On 2020-08-20 09:38, Kneops wrote:
I agree, it is a marvellous piece of work, unbelievable really and I love it but not use it as much as I would like to. And I would never recommend it to friends :(. Even for me as a freelance photographer (20+ years of experience) it feels like it is made for techies, not (yet) intuitive enough. For example the filmic module is so full of options and sliders and words that are not obvious/comprehensible for most people and even I have much difficulty in understanding what they do. I just start using the sliders and always slide in the wrong direction at first ;). My feeling says that when I see a slider that says 'White relative exposure' I want to drag it to the right to get more white tones, but the opposite happens.

I'm not a fan of Windows, Adobe and LR, but I still use the latter because it is intuitive. With a few sliders I get almost exactly what I want with 99% of my images and very fast (even though LR lacks speed and I don't like the catalogs/collections system of it). That is why most people still use LR I think. It has sliders that are called White Tones, Black Tones, Highlights, Texture, all very clear in what they do and how to use them. If DT wants to drag a lot of people to its open source alternative, imho it needs to be simplified. LR lacks power and options for more adjustments, but what it does it does quite nicely. Highlight and shadow recovery always looks very natural, whereas in DT highlight recovery is not good enough and shadow recovery can look very harsh and artificial.

But... I'm really a fan of DT and hope I can use it on a daily basis and convert my newest pc back into a Linux machine, because LR is the only reason I bought it (my other Linux computer is for webdesign work). Could have been Capture One or one of the other options as well by the way, what I'm trying to say is not LR specific.


So, a lot of love and admiration for DT, but some suggestions for the future :).


Jack



Op 19-08-2020 om 10:00 schreef Pascal Obry:

Hi Jason,

Overall impressions: a worthy improvement (thanks, developers!). I am
going to adjust to a new workflow with darktable 3.2, but it is not a
big adjustment. I think overall darktable has come very far since the
early days, and it is hard to believe such a program is free
software.

Nice to read such message among all the bug reports. This amazing piece
of work is maintained by many talented people accros the planet. The
best we can do to keep our freedom against the big players trying to
lock us down in their world which ressemble to a golden jail.

Cheers,


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