Hi Andrew,
I have never considered using DT for importing images from the camera as
I saw the strength of DT in editing not as an image management system. I hang
my head in shame and admit I use LR for that. However, with DT3.6 I am
realising there is new potential to use DT to import and organise images. It is
an improvement that surprised me. I am still coming to grips with the DT import
options but for those who do not have a system like yours or mine through LR it
looks like DT can now do a good job with copy and import from cameras.
BTW, there are some nice improvements in DT 3.6 including filmic V5.
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From: Andrew Greig <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, 17 July 2021 4:39 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Question regarding v3.4 and v3.6 file importing
I am reading the posts here in relation to importing images. I run Linux Ubuntu
20.04, with DT 3.4. I am puzzled by the difficulties encountered, because I
have never used DT to Import as others do. A friend in the Linux Users of
Victoria has spent quite some time assisting me to ensure accurate and
real-time backups of my RAW images. So, when finished a photoshoot (around 140
- 200 images in RAW + jpg, on the same day, at the conclusion of the session, I
create a folder in my working directory using yyyymmdd-modelname. My friend has
set up a script so that when a new folder is created in my working directory a
file structure is created under the parent folder
parent
yyyymmdd-modelname
children
yyyymmdd-modelname-RAW yyyymmdd-modelname-jpg yyyymmdd-modelname-exported
there are three children of the yyyymmdd-modelname-exported folder
yyyymmdd-modelname-fullsize yyyymmdd-modelname-proofs yyyymmdd-modelname-IG
So I plug my SD card into the reader, select my files by type and copy the RAW
files into their folder. Then I copy the jpg files into their folder. As soon
as the RAW files hit their folder a script detects the activity and immediately
starts copying them to a mirror of the working directory on my USB 3TB drive.
I also copy the jpg files to their folder ( there is no backup of camera
generated jpgs) When I see that the copy to the mirror is complete, I return
the SD card to my camera and format the card. After that I open the import
folder and select the RAW folder in my working directory (SSD), I open the
directory and start work on the images. When I have finished processing, I
export at appropriate resolutions into the three export folders. I watermark
and frame images suitable for Instagram, using a square frame. This ensures
that I can present my work on Instagram without interference with my formatting.
Once all my exporting is concluded, I move the RAW files to my RAID 1 drives, I
delete the jpg directory and I move the yyyymmdd-modelname-exported folder with
children to my RAID 1 drive sync folder which then syncs my finished work with
Google Drive. So now there is nothing left in my working directory related to
that shoot and so the mirror on the USB 3TB drive reflects the change and
deletes the RAW files from the Working Directory Backup folder. Every Saturday
morning a snapshot is taken of my working directory and stored on a different
USB 3TB drive.
I don't have much to do, but much is done thanks to the scripts from my friend.
I am very grateful.
Andrew Greig
Melbourne Australia
On 17/7/21 12:27 pm, Terry Pinfold wrote:
For me I feel it is just getting used to a new dialog or GUI. We are all
stubborn creatures that struggle with change. However, I do see the new import
options as an improvement. I was scanning individual images today and then
working them in darktable. It was really nice how the new import option opens
in a dialog showing my folders including the most recently used one where my
scans were being placed. I find it easier now that I am getting used to it.
On Sat, 17 Jul 2021 at 10:49, Guillermo Rozas
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I don't understand where is the problem? Press "add to library...", select an
image, and import. That works exactly the same as the "import image" button
from darktable 3.4.
The only differences are that now you can use the same dialog to import both
single images and full folders, and that the "copy and import" button has
gained the ability to not only copy from a card reader/camera, but also from
any folder in the computer.
Regards,
Guillermo
On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 9:34 PM Willy Williams
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I concur that this is one option. I Windows, it's right-click, then open with
darktable (Ubuntu is very similar). It's just more awkward. I, too, miss the
ease of just opening a single image as I could in prior releases. Perhaps in a
future release, a third button could be included to restore this single image
opening function.
Willy Williams
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On 7/16/21 at 6:41 PM, David Vincent-Jones wrote:
If I have a single image (RAW or DNG) located anywhere on my system I can, by
simply clicking on it, open it for processing in dt as a single image. I do not
like doing this since it, in my opinion, messes up the data structure of dt but
in fact it works.
On 2021-07-16 3:34 p.m., Terry Pinfold wrote:
Well I am taking my time to try and learn this new system. The copy and
import option is a nice addition for those who want to copy images from an
external source. I have set mine to import and organise by date of capture.
Like everything new it is taking time to learn and I am not yet fuly
comfortable with it. Maybe the ability to import one picture was a nice
feature that has now been lost or become hidden. But I have to say with
both Darktable and Lightroom (forgive me for mentioning an Adobe offering)
I miss the simplicity of just opening and processing an image like you do
in GIMP. Not a complaint, just an observation. Anyway, I continue to
explore the new offerring of DT 3.6. and really appreciate the effort
people have put into it.
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