Re: export is missing jpeg settings. All it has is quality. As far as I
have seen in applications, there are a number of other settings.
Personally I would like to know how to customize the HTML gallery with my
own code.
John P Santos
Digital Media Consultant - Green Bee Media
greenbeemedia.ca
On 2013-02-25 4:01 AM, "Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo" <jcs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Pedro Côrte-Real <pe...@pedrocr.net>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I shoot with an SLR in RAW-only mode. I've traditionally used
> > f-spot+ufraw to manage my workflow, it's worked fine but it's not a
> > great solution. Now that f-spot has stagnated I've been looking at
> > other options and darktable seems very exciting. I took it for a spin
> > a few weeks ago (version 1.1.3 on Ubuntu 12.04) to process some
> > pictures I had taken at a friend's wedding and took some notes. I
> > figured I'd edit them into a coherent use report in case the
> > developers were interested. Here it is.
> >
>
> Thanks for your comments. They are always valueable. Please, check the
> replies below, and also I recommend you to read through the user's
> manual at http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/index.html.php
>
> > General thoughts
> > - The non-destructive, "all edits are really just metadata", way of
> > working gets top marks. It's the way to go to edit RAW files
> > - The stars/colors/tags facilities to classify photos fit right in to
> > the way I want to work. I use the stars to evaluate absolute quality
> > of the photos, the color green to mark the ones I've selected and the
> > tags to describe what the pictures are about.
> > - The program seems to do great things in terms of the RAW pipeline. I
> > find the interface a bit hard to use to process a large number of
> > images quickly.
> >
> > About the main interface
> > - There's no quick way to change from viewing 1 image to viewing the
> > table (double click moves into edit mode which is almost certainly not
> > what you want).
>
> As someone already mentioned, click 'z'
>
> > - Here I'd suggest double click still bringing you back and forth into
> > edit mode but have it also show the ratings/colors, allow them to be
> > changed, and respond to page up/page down to change image. This would
> > almost eliminate the need for the bottom slider in edit mode and make
> > editing a bunch of images in sequence much easier.
>
> In darkroom mode, press Ctrl+f. It will bring up the filmstrip, where
> you can move to other images, and change ratings and colorlabels.
>
> > - I couldn't find a way to search by color, only to sort by it. After
> > doing the selection I'd like to be able to restrict the list to only
> > green marked images as those are the keepers in my workflow.
>
> Check in the 'Collect images' in the left panel in lighttable. There
> is a filter by colorlabel.
>
> > - When looking at a single image the metadata (name, file, etc) is
> > overlayed on the image. Get your text out of my images! :)
>
> I think that is going to have to be a preference. Some people like
> having it there (like me). But not possible right now.
>
> >
> > Edit mode
> > -There's way too much space spent with the settings tabs leaving a
> > very small image, making editing very hard on a laptop. The top bar
> > also wastes a bunch of space with a huge darktable logo and the
> > "lightable | darkroom | tethering | map" selector. With my edit mode
> > suggestion you could just eliminate that selector and just have a
> > tethering button somewhere.
>
> Press Ctrl+h and you will make the top bar disappear. Also you can
> collapse all the panels clicking Tab, and the only show the right one
> by pressing the little triangle.
>
> > -There's no way that I could find to apply the same settings to a
> > group of images, the only one I found was saving a style and then
> > going image by image, selecting "original", collapsing the stack down
> > and then applying the style (way too many clicks). When working a
> > large set of images this is incredibly frustrating. This is what I had
> > to do with ufraw and was hoping that something that joined the
> > functions of f-spot and ufraw allowed me to apply a set of RAW
> > settings at once to a bunch of images and only then go one by one and
> > fine-tune the ones that need it. Here again the distinction between
> > lighttable and darkroom seems superfluous. I should be able to have
> > the edit pane open just the same for a single image as for a set of
> > images, the same way I should be able to set a tag on a single image
> > or to a group. The more I think about it the more I think the
> > lighttable/darkroom distinction doesn't make sense in a digital world.
>
> The distinction makes sense if you want to have powerful DAM
> capabilities, while not cluttering the UI for the darkroom mode.
> For applying same settings to several images you have more than one mode:
> 1. As you have already done, make an style. Then in lighttable
> select all the images you want, expand the styles module in the right
> panel and double click on the style you want.
> 2. Press Ctrl+C on the image you want to copy the settings from and
> Ctrl+V on the images you want those settings be applied. This also
> works in the filsmtrip I show you how to show before.
>
> You are also able to set a tag in an image or in a group. Select the
> group and use the tags module in the right panel the same way than
> before. Or press Ctrl+t to be able to insert a tag in the popup entry.
>
> > -In the history stack, if you try something and set in on and off
> > you've just poluted the stack and there doesn't seem to be a simple
> > way to just remove a line from the stack. Instead of saving a sequence
> > of events I'd just have a list of what plugins are on, and not show
> > anything that's off.
>
> Click on compress history stack and you will get the modules you need
> to get the final image.
>
> > -Even though a lot of space is spent on settings it's often hard to
> > access them, as they'll scroll out of the way, and it's not clear the
> > pane is scrolled down. The dark theme needs to give some contrast to
> > the scrollbars.
>
> The color of the scrollbars hat can be changed by tweaking the theme.
> If you are really interested we can go deeply on this.
>
> > -The sliders in the plugins (e.g., exposure change) are very hard to
> > use precisely with the mouse (very small targets) and don't seem to be
> > keyboard accessible
>
> Right click on it (no need to click on the handler, just on the slider
> bar) A panel will show up to fine adjust the setting. Then, you can
> also type in the keyboard the number you want. Refer to this post for
> more info: http://www.darktable.org/2012/03/bauhaus-widgets/
>
> > -I'd suggest a single pane holding all the settings as icons and
> > somehow indicate which are currently active (desaturate the disabled
> > ones for example)
>
> Under the histogram, if you click on the 'power' icon, you will only
> see those modules that are active in the current image.
>
> >
> > Export
> > -The interface here is a bit cryptic but serviceable
>
> How would you enhance it?
>
> > -The export seemed to bring the rest of the app to a crawl (this might
> > be because I was running it in a VM environment). Running the export
> > at idle priority might be a good idea
>
> Well, we need a better handling of job queue here. It is expected
> someday (several parts need a complete rewrite)
>
> >
> > Others
> > - It's happened a few times to me using the Ubuntu ppa that after
> > first opening and closing darktable once, every time I try to run it
> > again it will not open and become an unkillable process (kill -9 has
> > no effect). I can run it as many times as I want and spawn an
> > unkillable process every time. Ubuntu hangs on restart (probably
> > waiting to kill darktable) so I have to hard-reset it.
>
> Weird. Can you run from the console wiht 'darktable -d all' ? Try to
> see where it get stuck and report back to daktable-de...@lists.sf.net
>
> > Let me know if any of this wasn't clear and if you want to discuss this
> more.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Pedro
>
> --
> José Carlos García Sogo
> jcs...@gmail.com
>
>
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