hi,
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Teodor Petrov <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm an amateur, shooting raw images with a dslr just for fun.
> I'm trying Darktable in an attempt to replace the almost unmaintained
>
unmaintained? probably just a little more careful about feature creep than
we are. i like the idea of doing less but that in very fast and clean code.
> RawStudio.
> Here are some questions and impressions I've gathered for the little
> time I've
> spent with DT. I'm using relatively new git-master-release.
>
>
> Light table related:
> 1. Do you plan to implement a library.db per directory feature?
no. you can always run --library another.db if you need to.
> This is
> something
> I really love in RawStudio. No matter where you move your images the
> settings,
> ranking, tags go with them and I like to manage my photos with a
> file manager
> (ls, cp, mv). I don't like the idea of in-program database.
> 2. I don't seem to like the idea of placing the xmp files next to the
> original image.
>
you can switch off writing of those files completely. i highly discourage
you do so.
> RawStudio here does it better, by placing them in a .rawstudio
> folder. Do you
> plan to implement this feature, too?
>
no, why?
> 3. A bug report: I've deleted several images on disk after I've loaded
> them in DT
> and now I'm getting the skull icon.
not a bug.
> How can I get rid of it?
>
select them and remove them from the database (right panel `selected
image[s]') or delete your db. all information is in the db, xmp are backup.
so as long as you don't delete both you should still have your edits.
> 4. I'd really use a vertical scroll for the image list. I see that there
> is a position
> marker, but a scroll would be far more useful.
>
true, that's an old feature request, but ctrl+mousewheel to zoom out and
then scrolling works well enough so it never got implemented so far.
> 5. The new focus detection feature is good, but I suppose focus-peaking
> like
> preview would be better. I don't think the stylized rectangles are
> too useful.
>
care to elaborate on this? i didn't parse it. `focus-peaking like'?
>
> If you don't have time to work on 1 and 2, then would you accept patches?
>
probably no, these are sensitive areas wrt data safety, so it needs careful
reviewing, and i don't see the benefit.
>
> Dark room related:
> 1. Do you plan to implement proper history like the one in Adobe's
> LightRoom?
>
no idea what you mean.
> The current implementation is quite limited and not too
> user-friendly. And the
> lack of undo is quite annoying, especially when editing curves.
> Currently it is
> pretty easy to lose your image settings while testing various effects
> and there
> is no obvious way to go back to a state you like without redoing the
> changes.
> 2. Do you have an estimate for the improved snaps
no. i don't think anyone is working on it.
> hots feature? I've seen on
> the wiki that you have a plan to fixing my complaints about it.
> 3. Do you plan to add "free panning"
? you mean zoom out more than zoom-to-fit? try ctrl-mousewheel or the
dropdown in the navigation view.
> or "panning passed the border" feature?
> It is pretty annoying to edit mask curves without it.
> 4. Do you plan to add the possibility to enter numerical values with the
> keyboard. I know you like to use fancy UI, but this
right click, type. we have a blinking cursor for this now.
> must not hinder the
> usability. The current UI is pretty hard to use when you want to enter a
> specific value (I know about right clicking, but I don't think I like
> it).
> 5. The range for exposure is quite useless - from -18 to 18, I think
> that a range
> from -3 to 3 will be a lot more useful.
>
you're no big fan of hdr images? i need the range as it is.
> 6. There is no scroll in the filmstrip at the bottom and so navigating
> hundreds
> of images is not easy.
> 7. Changing an image from the filmstrip requires a double click, but I'm
> trying
> to change them by single click and I'm always surprised that a double
> click
> is required.
>
well, we get that a lot (people being surprised by random things in one or
the other contradicting way).
-j.
> Generally DT seems like a very powerful application that lacks a bit of
> UI polish.
> It feels harder to use than RawStudio for the simpler cases of image
> development, but pretty good when you need to do complex stuff.
>
> I guess this is enough for a first post :)
>
> Best regards,
> Teodor
>
>
>
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