On 03/27/15 10:34, Stéphane Gourichon wrote:
> Le 27/03/2015 13:29, Urs Schütz a écrit :
>> Hi list
>>
>> Is there a way to crop to size, without dragging boarder and corner
>> handles? Until now I did not find any way to do it.
>>
>> Sometimes I would like the crop box to be my exact monitor size. Using
>> the boarder and corner handles to crop and reading back the crop size is
>> in this case cumbersome. One needs to zoom in to have full control, and
>> then the text display is sometimes invisible...
>
> I experienced exactly the same troubles.
>
> => Pre-setting a correct aspect ratio in the drop down list speeds up
> the process somehow (you just have to set one dimension, the other often
> gets right).

I did this already.

>> What would be very convenient for my use case: Using the keyboard to
>> give a size (e.g. 1600x900), and then use the mouse to drag the crop
>> rectangle to the appropriate position.
>
> So far, what I do is set the size via mouse manually once then create a
> style with the correct size for other pictures.

Oh, that is a nice workflow. I tried and found out that a preset inside 
the crop module works better for my use.

>
> But that's a fragile hack because the style (probably rightfully) stores
> the crop area as a fraction of picture dimensions or similar, not as pixels.
>
> So, a preset for this purpose only works well on other pictures of exact
> same dimension.
>
> Alas, picture dimensions vary a lot per camera, orientation, shoot-time
> settings. For example, a JPEG from a Nikon camera, even at full
> resolution, does not have exactly the same dimensions as the RAW file
> (Nikon D60 RAW 3899x2625 JPEG 3872x2592, Nikon D5200 RAW 6034x4036 JPEG
> 6000x4000).
>
> So in practice one has to create one style per situation (I currently
> have 16...), or AFAIK just do it manually all the time.
>
>> Is there some way within the crop and rotate module to define exact crop
>> size by means of numerical keyboard input?
>
> I would appreciate such a feature!
>
> Given that typing works in all sliders and more (even in the aspect
> ratio drop down list, type 22:7 for example), one idea would be to type
> e.g. 1600x900 at rectangle corner drag time. Other software (like Google
> Sketchup) has similar features.

It would be perfect for me to type it into the aspect ratio slider, 
exactly the same way as the aspect ratio, but with "x" instead of ":" or 
"/" to separate the two numbers.

> Alternatively, including in the iop module a box showing the position
> and another showing the size ? People who never care might fear UI clutter.
>
> Regards to all darktable contributors, it's not perfect but produces
> very nice results!

+1!

Thanks for your ideas.

Urs

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