On 27/10/15 08:00, Matthieu Moy wrote:
> The future dt 2.0 has a wb setting called "camera neutral white balance"
> which didn't show up with dt 1.6.
>
> What is it meant to be? What is its use?

 From the #darktable IRC chat log:

[01:18.24] <houz> what exactly is camera neutral wb? we didn't have that before
[01:19.34] <LebedevRI> (i have answered that before, let me answer it again)
[01:19.50] <LebedevRI> it is auto-generated from adobe camera matrix
[01:20.40] <houz> what is it good for?
[01:21.21] <houz> we should document that in the usermanual
[01:21.43] * houz is currently updating de.po and tries to understand things to 
find a good name
[01:22.36] <LebedevRI> basically, it is the wb which "converts" 
(camera-rgb)(1,1,1) into (rgb)(1,1,1)
[01:23.57] <houz> so it's a non-green passthrough
[01:24.11] <LebedevRI> so it is always the same for the same matrix, will be 
mostly correct for 
every light situation (thus, can be used as basic fallback auto-wb)
[01:24.17] <LebedevRI> yes, essentially
[01:24.47] <houz> not sure if i see a benefit in including that, but it won't 
hurt either
[01:24.49] <LebedevRI> output is kinda correct for camera, but not for color 
temperature
[01:25.44] *** beedaddy (~martin@unaffiliated/beedaddy) has joined #darktable
[01:26.06] <houz> so the name "camera neutral white balance" has to be read as 
"(camera neutral) 
white balance"? i.e., it is independent from camera?
[01:27.49] <LebedevRI> uhm, well. i think, it will be 6504K for every camera, 
but for every camera 
it will compute to different wb multipliers
[01:28.11] <houz> different multipliers, but the same look?
[01:28.29] <houz> so shooting the same scene with a canon and nikon would 
result in the same image?
[01:28.33] <LebedevRI> let me check, ...
[01:29.22] *** fmerges (~fmerges@161.72.100.50) Quit (Quit: leaving)
[01:31.21] <LebedevRI> [obiviously, i do not have canon AND nikon so i can not 
do exact comparison] 
but looking at a shots from canon and nikon in similar light conditions, it 
does result in the 
similarly looking image

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