right, this kind of artifact results from low bit depth even for
perfect images without noise reduction. ulrich wrote the dithering
module to counteract that:

http://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch03s04s04.html.php#dithering

might be helpful in your case, too.
cheers,
 jo

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:08 PM, André Felipe Carvalho
<afelipe.carva...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This photo was saved in jpeg 100%, raw denoising of 0.004. I managed to get
> rid of the majority of the bands, but you can see some lines above/around
> the sun.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrefelipecarvalho/22536463868/
>
>
>
> 2015-11-11 22:34 GMT-02:00 André Felipe Carvalho
> <afelipe.carva...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hello Johannes,
>>
>> I was using Jpeg 97%
>>
>> I use, normally, only the raw denoising, starting with 0.002 points, going
>> to 0.006 if needed and the image colors permit.
>>
>> Experimenting with 0.004  raw denoising I can see some band even with the
>> PNG 100% export. But I admit it's better then at 97% jpeg.
>> The bands, now, are narrower than before. Less visible at the orange sky
>> parts and more apparent at the dark, silhouetted parts.
>>
>> Pulling the Color Balance first factor (Levantar, in portuguese) a little
>> bit to the left may help to disguise the bands.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> André
>>
>>
>> 2015-11-11 14:24 GMT-02:00 johannes hanika <hana...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:05 PM, Tobias Ellinghaus <h...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> > Am Dienstag, 10. November 2015, 19:15:10 schrieb André Felipe Carvalho:
>>> >> I've been experiencing this behavior specially in sunset photos.
>>> >>
>>> >> After applying the modules that I want, among them the sharpness
>>> >> module, if
>>> >> I want to get rid of the raw noise, the exported jpeg shows bands on
>>> >> the
>>> >> degrades parts of the image (sky, for instance, or dark areas).
>>> >> The exported image without Raw Noise Reduction is about 6.8MB, while
>>> >> the
>>> >> one with noise reduction goes down to 2.8MB. Why's that?
>>>
>>> that's normal, noise has high entropy and doesn't compress as well as
>>> the low noise one.
>>>
>>> did you only do raw denoising? or any non local means, too? any
>>> wavelet based method shouldn't lead to as much banding as nlmeans
>>> (because the latter uses a piecewise constant prior).
>>>
>>> -jo
>>>
>>> >
>>> > - What is your "quality" setting in the export module?
>>> > - Could you try exporting to PNG and see if that has the same problems?
>>> >
>>> >> The IQ is bad (because of those bands) and I have to turn noise
>>> >> reduction
>>> >> off.
>>> >>
>>> >> I can provide some samples, or the raw file and the .xml associated.
>>> >
>>> > Tobias
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