hi,

that example image is totally not dark saturated enough blue to
trigger the Lab conversion turns purple colourspace problem (which is
solved by the gamut clipping, as roman mentioned). i suppose you could
try to measure a basecurve from a CR2/jpg pair for that camera [0],
that affects colour saturation a lot, too.

cheers,
 jo

[0] https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/tree/master/tools/basecurve

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 10:24 AM, gersch...@gmail.com
<gersch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09.01.2016 09:21, Roman Lebedev wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 1:49 AM, gersch...@gmail.com <gersch...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> blue colors in the raw files of my Canon 700D are turned into much 
>>>>>>>> darker blue or purple
>>>>>>>> in darktable when applying the usual corrections (sharpen, 
>>>>>>>> orientation, base curve). The
>>>>>>>> jpg files produced by the camera show a blue which is much closer to 
>>>>>>>> the real color.
>>>>>>>> Is this a known problem? What Is the best way to correct this? I have 
>>>>>>>> the impression
>>> that
>>>>>>>> this does not occur in rawtherapee.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, this problem has been present for quite some time. I see it in 
>>>>>>> shots taken with
>>> my Canon 60D
>>>>>>> but not in those taken with my 5d3. It's cased by the input color 
>>>>>>> profile; try
>>> changing the profile
>>>>>>> from "enhanced color matrix" to "standard color matrix" or even 
>>>>>>> "rec2020".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ultimate solution is to profile your camera using a color target:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://encrypted.pcode.nl/blog/2010/06/28/darktable-camera-color-profiling/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Darktable used to accept these custom profiles for inclusion in the 
>>>>>>> main project, but
>>> this is
>>>>>>> currently not happening pending a rework on the way the input end of 
>>>>>>> the pipe works
>>> (though I don't
>>>>>>> remember the details). None of this stops you using your own custom 
>>>>>>> profile, though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your information. I've tested different input color profiles 
>>>>> but I still have
>>>>> the impression the blue is too saturated.
>>>>> Is there someone with a Canon camera who would share their optimised 
>>>>> color profile or
>>>>> darktable style?
>>>> Have you already tried setting "gamut clipping" in "input color
>>>> profile" to "linear Rec2020 RGB"?
>>>
>>>> https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch03s04s03.html.php#d0e7524
>>>
>>>>> Thanks also for the hint to try RawStudio profiles.
>>>
>>>>> Regards, Gerd
>>>> Roman
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> yes, I tried Rec2020 RGB with gamut clipping but now all colors look rather 
>>> pale. I think
>>> that the colors in the standard color matrix look good except the blue 
>>> being too dark.
>> Just to be sure: i meant: in "input color profile" module, set  "gamut
>> clipping" to "linear Rec2020 RGB".
>> Not:  in "input color profile" module, set  "profile" to "linear Rec2020 
>> RGB".
>>
>>> Regards, Gerd
>> Roman.
>
> Hi,
>
> I've actually found a photo where the blue color situation of Canon raw files 
> can be seen
> very well:
> Have a look at
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ikzw34pcvpstqf/IMG_7993.CR2?dl=0
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ykhmyu12c9o89sa/IMG_7993.JPG?dl=0
>
> The real color of the shirt is very close to the blue in the JPG but it 
> appears to be
> purple in the raw image if the standard base curve is applied. The setting 
> suggested by
> Roman improves the color a bit but not enough.
>
> Regards, Gerd
>
>
>
>
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