I'm using MKS Toolkit, so I have the tools to make a linux-friendly build work 
on Windows, and I know Eclipse comes with a CVS client, I guess I just need to 
get everything hooked up right.  In the meantime...

>Are you plugins set to be lazily-loaded (check MANIFEST.MF)? Installing 
>software does not mean activating software; Eclipse will only instantiate 
>classes as needed so that initial workbench startup time is calculated in 
>minutes instead of in hours or days. :)

Yes, they are set to be lazy loaded, but switching that didn't change anything.

>If you plugins contribute UI (eg., a tool bar button), they will only be 
>activated if the UI is visible in the current perspective. If they contribute 
>a view the plugins won't show in the registry until the view is opened.

I'm aware of this.  The plugin contributes a top-level menu, several views, 
import wizards, synchronize wizards, team sharing wizards, preferences, etc.  
None of these items show up in any of the places they should.  The plugin works 
just fine when installed via "Classic Updates", by adding an extension 
location, which is what leads me to believe it's a problem with the update 
site.  We used to use the "links" method of installation, then when that 
stopped being supported in RAD 7 (IIRC), we switched to the extension location 
option.  Now that it looks like that's being deprecated too, update site it is 
(if I can only get it working)!

Thanks for your help.  I'll work on getting the example going, and let you know 
if (when!) I have further questions.  I'm still perplexed by the id of 
"<feature id>.feature.group" in the installed software list.  Why's that being 
tacked on? The only other place I see it is in various places in the 
content.xml in the update site.  Lines like "<provided 
namespace="org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu" name="<feature id>.feature.jar" 
version="4.10.1" />" where the actual name of the feature jar generated is 
"<feature id>_4.10.1.jar".

Kristina

-----Original Message-----
From: dash-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:dash-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On 
Behalf Of Nick Boldt
Sent: October 22, 2009 6:29 PM
To: Tools for Committer Community
Subject: Re: [dash-dev] Re: [p2-dev] Help with creating P2 update site

> Thank you for the reply.  I'm finally getting back to this problem after 
> getting sidetracked yet again.  I'm not really getting anywhere, 
> unfortunately.  I'm by no means a build expert/release engineer of any sort, 
> so please bear with me.
> We don't use CVS at all, so for me, the gef example fails saying "[build] 
> [eclipse.fetch] Could not retrieve feature.xml and/or build.properties: 
> java.io.IOException: 

The Eclipse SDK comes with a CVS client built-in; you can use that to fetch the 
GEF sources into your workspace, then build against the local sources (if you 
don't want the build to do the cvs fetch for you).

It's recommended that you start with a working build because then you have 
examples of well-crafted plugins and features, including correct syntax in 
MANIFEST.MF, feature.xml, build.properties, etc.

> Cannot run program "cvs" (in directory 
> "C:\tmp\build\N200910221443\eclipse\tempFeature"): CreateProcess error=2, The 
> system cannot find the file specified.".  
> I'm not sure installing and configuring CVS is a good use of my time, just to 
> make an example work. 

That translates to "you need to install Cygwin for a linux-friendly build to 
work on Windows; while installing Cygwin, be sure to include the cvs client so 
that the program 'cvs' can be found."

If you don't want to go down the CVS route, there are SVN-based builds too. See 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/MoDisco/Releng/How_to_Use#Building_on_Windows

But in either case, you can point Athena at your workspace and have it build 
all the plugins/features it finds there using the 
localSourceCheckoutDir=/path/to/workspace/or/some/cvs/tree/dump/folder
in your athena releng project's build.properties.

> 1. Created a feature that contains all of my plugins (3) and fragments (2), 
> and includes my feature (which in turn also includes the 3 plugins).  
> 2. Created an update site
>       2a. Added my master feature
>       2b. Built the site.  It generated jars for the master feature, my 
> feature, and for each of my 5 plugins/fragments, as well as the artifacts.jar 
> and contents.jar.

Sounds good so far.

> 3. Start a clean debug instance of eclipse with none of my workspace plugins 
> enabled.
>       3a. Add the local update site
>       3b. Install the "all in one" feature
>       3c. Let Eclipse it restart itself.

Yep, that sounds good too.

> My feature is listed as installed software (under Help -> About -> 
> Installation Details), but none of my plugins are listed in the plugin 
> registry, nor are the GUI elements being loaded.  It's also not showing up 
> under "Features" in the Installation Details box.  I'm obviously missing 
> something fundamental.  If in step 2a, I also add my other (non-master) 
> feature to the update site, then in step 3b try to install that one instead, 
> I get the same result.  What I find rather odd is that in the list of 
> installed software, the ID is feature.a.feature.group.  Where's this 
> "feature.group" thing coming from?  I don't get the error I was having 
> previously any more (I think there may have been a spurious dependency on one 
> of my plugins in my feature), but I'm not exactly getting any further, either.

Are you plugins set to be lazily-loaded (check MANIFEST.MF)? Installing 
software does not mean activating software; Eclipse will only instantiate 
classes as needed so that initial workbench startup time is calculated in 
minutes instead of in hours or days. :)

If you plugins contribute UI (eg., a tool bar button), they will only be 
activated if the UI is visible in the current perspective. If they contribute a 
view the plugins won't show in the registry until the view is opened.

For deeper assistance re: bundle activation and start levels... and all that 
fun stuff... try asking questions in #equinox-dev on freenode. See 
http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC for other channels.


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Nick Boldt :: http://nick.divbyzero.com
Release Engineer :: Eclipse Modeling & Dash Athena 
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