Thank you Sreenivas, these are very interesting questions and I will try and answer some of them based on the presentation they made.
1. That is the answer they are seeking - as to who will latch on to their data. As of now, they use this data internally - they have a business analytics team which looks at all the datasets to detect patterns and tweak their process. However, they are unable to see (and are willing to learn) how people outside of UIDAI might find this data useful. As to the filters they apply, I don't know the specific filters they apply, but one of the principles on which they build their datasets is privacy - they will not reveal personally identifiable information. So as an outsider to UIDAI, you might get information at an aggregate level, but not anything more granular than that. 2. UIDAI is building 3 portals - a Direct Cash Transfers portal, an Enrollment portal (which is what I have sent the link to) and an Authentication portal. -Direct Cash Transfers portal would most probably be under the Ministry of Finance, and they will decide if it's going to be open or not. -The Auth portal has not yet been built - they are working on it, and I *think it will be open. This portal would give data on usage of Aadhaar numbers by various departments. And by its very nature, it is a continuously updated portal. For example, if the PDS chooses to use Aadhaar numbers for delivering rations, then the auth portal will show you how many people (of the ones who chose to take an Aadhaar number if it's optional or if the department makes it compulsory then how many people) in a particular district used the aadhaar number to access these services. Details about what they bought using the Aadhaar number will not be shared with the UIDAI and consequently won't be available on the Auth portal. -That leaves the enrollment portal - the way enrollment works is that a person enrolls and 10 years down the line, they have to update their biometrics. So it's not entirely static data. Also, in addition to the aadhaar numbers, there's a lot of other data that's being generated which is more dynamic like the device data etc 3. As Nisha was pointing out in a back-channel message, we should invite UIDAI to the datacamp, and I think they are also very open to explaining their processes to people. That will help you understand the context in which each dataset is created. I don't know about the low reliability levels. 4. And neither do I know about the statistical validity 5. Well, this is a question I can only guess at and I don't want to take wild guesses :) 6. I think it does - data is available at a sub-district level for all states and I *think it is both for rural and urban areas. Can confirm Please keep the questions coming! I will try and answer based on the presentation they made on 23rd. And if not, I will pass it on. Best Laina On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:21 AM, Sreenivas KN <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Laina. > > Greetings and wishes on the meeting you propose to have. interesting to > see UIDAI go public. some pointers of interest to me: > 1. the question is who will be latching on to the data that is expected to > be shared, generated out of public funds (read tax payers money). we cannot > control the use of data once it goes public. what filters woudl they be > applying to access and use of data > 2. what is the use of one time data that UID is generating at the scale it > is being done? > 3. what is the rationale behind the data streams generated? it is > important to understand the context in which data was generated. which ones > in their perspective have low reliability levels? > 4. how good is their data? what kind of statistical validity does it > subscribe to? > 5. what drives them to put private data (however insignificant it might > seem) in the public domain? > 6. does their database cover urban areas also ([?] my current work deals > with this?) > > PS: we met at the ofkn organised meet at nipfp campus near munirka. > > let's keep talking on this. there are many inititives that could benefit > from this interestign database? > > it will good to hear their side of the story on these small insignificant > points.hope this helps. > warm regards, > Sreenivas > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Laina Emmanuel > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> As you all know, the UIDAI has launched its enrollment data >> portal<https://data.uidai.gov.in/uiddatacatalog/dataCatalogHome.do>. >> They are keen to get feedback on the kind of datasets that would be useful >> to researchers and features that can be implemented on their site. >> >> To give you some context, broadly speaking, this is the kind of data they >> collect (on the enrollment side) >> >> -Timings - How much time it took to enroll a person, how much time was >> spent in each stage of the process (and this can be broken up by registrar. >> So in which state was the average time to enroll the maximum and so on) >> - Devices - How many enrollments were done on a particular device, which >> operator is handling a device and so on. >> - People involved - Data about the registrar, enrollment agency, and the >> person who did enrollment, how many mistakes were found against a >> particular person and so on >> - Type of errors committed - How many errors were committed by which >> partner of the UIDAI during the enrollment process >> - Geography - Data on enrollment by district and sub-district >> - Demographics of a person - Data on people enrolled. UIDAI has a policy >> of not disclosing personally identifiable information. However, you can >> send in suggestions if you think that there's aggregated data which would >> be useful for researchers >> - Internal quality checking - There are a number of quality checks that >> are done by the UIDAI of people, devices and processes. Is there any >> information there that you think you can use? >> >> I would be talking to UIDAI in a day or two. Once they get our >> suggestions, they will see which of the features can be implemented, and >> which datasets can be made open. >> >> Since a lot of people here are interested in data, your suggestions would >> be valuable. 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