Thejesh,

They are yet to implement it in Bangalore, will take some 6 months i guess.
The tender got rolled out in last March.


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Sajjad Anwar <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Suvajit <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi Sajjad,
> >   I propose to use Google API itself to extract some information. How is
> > this violating G M terms of service ?
>
> Check clause 2 here - https://maps.google.com/help/terms_maps.html
>
> >   But it is subject to test whether really we can scrape out good data
> from
> > it or not.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Suvajit
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:11:22 AM UTC+5:30, Sajjad Anwar wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey,
> >>
> >> On Feb 19, 2014 10:34 AM, "Suvajit" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Good job Thej & Sajjd on scraping BMTC stop & route info from their
> >> > website and presenting on OSM.
> >> >
> >> > But I am sure that if we count bus stations in Bangalore it will have
> >> > 1000 stops more ( around 4000 in total ). So we need to find those
> missing
> >> > ones.
> >> > Google Map has better list of bus stations for Bangalore than BMTC.
> But
> >> > unfortunately GMap does not provide API to get that information
> directly.
> >> > I found a workaround where Google Local search provides bus stations
> in
> >> > a given locality.
> >> > So quite an amount on scrapping work can be done on Google Map itself
> to
> >> > extract bus_stations. I will give try in spare time.
> >>
> >> Just a word of caution - this is against Google Maps / Search Terms of
> >> Service. Even if you scrape the data out we cannot use it in any
> meaningful
> >> way.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On the live tracking point, BMTC  already awarded a project last year
> to
> >> > put tracking devices in all its fleet (6500+ buses). The project is
> expected
> >> > to complete end of this year. In that case, if the system works well
> we can
> >> > get the GPS logs of BMTC buses.
> >> > This can help us both in live update and also accurate route and stop
> >> > database building.
> >> >
> >> > Also BMTC has floated a tender for digitization of schedules. If this
> >> > project is on, we can expect to get accurate bus stop, route and
> schedule
> >> > information from BMTC. In fact, we can ask BMTC to publish their data
> in
> >> > GTFS format which we can use to build services/solutions on top of it.
> >> >
> >> > Sajjad,
> >> >   What license are you asking about ? License to publish GTFS data ?
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Suvajit
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:51:30 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Is it live somewhere?
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
> >> >> http://thejeshgn.com
> >> >> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
> >> >>
> >> >> On Feb 18, 2014 8:27 PM, "srinivas kodali" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement
>  Expected
> >> >>> Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus
> >> >>>> routes - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-toolsas
> >> >>>> objects.
> >> >>>> It can help general junta to access it easily.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> -Meera
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> OSM allows gtfs tags -
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification
> >> >>>>> Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data
> to
> >> >>>>> the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do
> >> >>>>> you
> >> >>>>> know what license BMTC publishes this in?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>> Sajjad.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN <[email protected]>
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>> > We can.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > --
> >> >>>>> > Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
> >> >>>>> > http://thejeshgn.com
> >> >>>>> > GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, "Sajjad Anwar" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>>>> >>
> >> >>>>> >> On a second thought and while talking people, it might make
> sense
> >> >>>>> >> to
> >> >>>>> >> publish this data in the GTFS format
> >> >>>>> >> (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/)
> >> >>>>> >>
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