Sorry, but what is the standard by which we are measuring? Which country can claim to have good (meaning fair (not the 'fair and lovely' kind of fair), unbiased) media, good journalism who use data and facts?
This recent article by Blum states that the best news may be coming from Russia: http://zcomm.org/zcommentary/cold-war-two/ All thru the election and post it, i have seen very little media coverage that does not resemble someones paid service. -Rajesh On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 2:41:39 PM UTC+5:30, -Mohit Arora- wrote: > > Here is one Indian website I recently bumped into which I think is trying > this out. I am not sure if they are making money at this stage, but I feel > its a step in right direction : > http://www.indiaspend.com > > Also I came to know that The Hindu has recently made substantial > investments to have data-backed stories and this url could be an output of > the same: > http://www.thehindu.com/data/ > > > Thanks, > Mohit Arora > > > > > On 12 August 2014 08:28, Nisha Thompson <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> I also agree. But my point is along the lines that yes there is good >> investigative journalism and data journalism in some places. But the >> Guardian and NYT with their large data crunching capacity are the >> exceptions and the NYT is going bankrupt. I also am weary of waiting around >> to see how sites like ProPublica and others find ways to become sustainable >> financially. The pressures and lack of capacity are in newsrooms all over >> the world including the west. >> >> India is the rule not the exception. >> >> This is not just a problem with Indian journalists and that means there >> is a great opportunity to experiment and find new ways to work with them >> and others to find different ways of promoting investigative and data >> journalism. >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Mohit Arora <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> I think the context here is being taken in wrong sense. No one can deny >>> the role of investigative journalism but at the same time its equally >>> important to have data backed journalism. In fact, data journalism can >>> actually complement investigative journalism. >>> >>> So on this note, I would largely agree with the article. I have a few >>> friends in media and have been talking to few journalists personally. There >>> is so much focus and pressure on the journalists for "breaking stories" >>> that they patience, time and effort required for data journalism is just >>> not there. Add to that the fact that most of the journalists are not >>> skilled enough to extract the required data from various sources in an >>> efficient manner. I am not sure, but I have heard that some workshops are >>> planned across the country to make them aware of some basic scripting (and >>> other required) knowledge so that they can extract basic data themselves, I >>> don't think there is an industry-wide push in that direction. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Mohit Arora >>> >>> >>> On 11 August 2014 12:30, Nisha Thompson <[email protected] >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> i think this title is weird... >>>> >>>> what revolution are we talking about? while you get solid investigative >>>> and data reporting in the west the funding is disappearing rapidly and the >>>> reporters doing this work are being squeezed. Real local reporting is >>>> almost non existent... most of the US is also missing out on this amazing >>>> revolution as well...So don't feel so left out! >>>> >>>> The article I find to be pretty interesting. I agree more data that is >>>> actionable, can be used it is a necessity to help build capacity and >>>> skills >>>> in news rooms. Also just pushing for data journalism is a short sighted >>>> ask. Investigative journalism needs to be pushed also. >>>> >>>> I think there is plenty of interest in getting facts and moving the >>>> media coverage in that direction. Whether we can pull together and make >>>> it >>>> a realty is another question. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Meera <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What do you folks think? >>>>> >>>>> -Meera >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> India’s Media — Missing the Data Journalism Revolution? >>>>> >>>>> How can media make sense of a country that has over 1.2 billion people >>>>> (about 17 percent of the global population), close to 800 languages, an >>>>> electorate of 814 million, and the largest urban agglomeration in the >>>>> world? >>>>> >>>>> How does one plan for a country where, at the end of 2012, about 22 >>>>> per cent of the population lived below the poverty line (with a daily >>>>> spending of less than about US45 cents in rural India and US55 cents in >>>>> urban India), but which also has 89 billionaires and features fifth in >>>>> the Global >>>>> Rich List <http://www.hurun.net/EN/ArticleShow.aspx?nid=274>? The >>>>> country's latest Census >>>>> <http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/31/census-17-percent-world-indian> >>>>> in >>>>> 2011 was taken with the help of 2.3 million enumerators travelling to >>>>> more >>>>> than 630,000 villages and more than 5000 cities. Census officials counted >>>>> the thousands of homeless scouring footpaths and railway stations, while >>>>> managing to include even the lone surviving Pakistani terrorist behind >>>>> the >>>>> 2008 Mumbai terror attacks. >>>>> >>>>> http://gijn.org/2014/07/21/indias-media-missing-the-data-journalism-revolution/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. 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