at bottom :- On 7/4/15, Amiruddin Nagri <[email protected]> wrote: > If good governance may not come using UID, it was certainly not coming when > > UID was not there. > > Yes there are all sort of security issues, but if you think about > 120,000,000,000 people, half of whom live below poverty line, with UID > trying to give them sort of promise that their share of social welfare is > going to reach them directly without any middleman, that it is not going to > > leak through the 50 yr old pen and paper system, it is good enough to > implement. > > This article only highlights the problem of UID, but fails to give any > solutions. Some of the points about legality, security and audit are > genuine and Govt should move in that direction. But not scrap it because > the white men were not able to do it successfully.
Hi all, Dear @Amiruddin the issues that have been outlined are just tip of the iceberg. There are some other reasons as well :- a. The company to which the project has been given is not Indian (it's an American company) . Would such a company would have loyalty to us or someone else ? b. Also it's not the question of the white man or the black man but data corruption. There has been no sharing by the company concerned what toolings are they using ? Even a simple wikipedia page outlines the issue with data corruption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_corruption gives the various ways in which silent data corruption can happen. c. Are there any penalty laws if data gets corrupted. AFAIK there aren't. Then there should be auditing by third-party of random data (chunks) , is there some sort of known genuine third-party auditors that the majority will accept and are technically skilled to see it through, apart form the Election Commission which does it every 4-5 years don't think so as the dataset is just so huge. Also how are you assuming that the middle-man will be out? AFAIK the application itself is proprietary. If I were a bad guy/ an actor I would just code a back-door and nobody would be wiser and this could be anybody in a chain who is supposed to verify the Aadhar information to the one who is filling the data in. There were reports of data leakage right at the input source which had been deliberately ignored. Forget elsewhere, there were such incidents happening in Pune itself which came in newspapers for a day or two and then disappeared. As shared above as well, in neither of the cases was any FIR filed or anything else for that matter. And if the govt. were really serious about getting people social welfare, the bank account initiative + using the post office as a multi-user institution would be more useful. At the end of the day, whether it is the ration card or Aadhar card, you will be dealing with the same person whom you were dealing on day 1. You are also assuming that data at the input stage is all correct, I had looked at couple of places where people who were working at Aadhar, how much training they had ? And if data is corrupted at the source itself (during sign up) then don't think people will come to know unless something obvious like gender has changed or year has aged etc. I don't really want to talk about Aadhar much as it's a slippery slope, hence signing off for now. Till later. -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal शिरीष अग्रवाल My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/ http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com EB80 462B 08E1 A0DE A73A 2C2F 9F3D C7A4 E1C4 D2D8 -- Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "datameet" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
