So the notable submissions are as follows and please upvote them. Submissions from medianama: https://www.mygov.in//comment/97350511/#comment-97350511/ Submissions from CIS: https://www.mygov.in//comment/97349731/#comment-97349731/ Submissions from Datameet: https://www.mygov.in//comment/97348141/#comment-97348141/ Submissions from India Open Data Association: https://www.mygov.in//comment/97347081/#comment-97347081/
These were my comments which didn't get uploaded at the last minute and turned into a blog post. Since the submissions are now over I am actually contesting the implementation of the policy itself as it is slow and is flawed at several stages. We need to look into several other issues from now. thoughts? http://www.lostprogrammer.com/blog/comments-on-national-data-sharing-policy-and-license/ Regards, Srinivas Kodali www.lostprogrammer.com *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"* On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:52 PM, Thejesh GN <[email protected]> wrote: > I made some small edits and posted it. > > https://www.mygov.in//comment/97348141/#comment-97348141/ > > 1. Please do a thumbs up > 2. If something is not covered in our common submission. Please make a > personal submission and share the link on this thread. > 3. Today is the last day. > > > > > Thej > -- > Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ > http://thejeshgn.com > GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 > > On 25 July 2016 at 16:51, srinivas kodali <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Are you finalizing it? need any other help? can you share the final copy >> before it gets uploaded. >> >> Regards, >> Srinivas Kodali >> www.lostprogrammer.com >> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"* >> >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Thejesh GN <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Today is the last day. I want to send/upload datameet letter. Can you >>> guys help me review the letter. >>> >>> I have the initial letter on the top of hackpad document. I have updated >>> it, using the comments from the community. >>> >>> I am planning to publish around 4pm. Please comment on the letter before >>> 3pm. >>> >>> Thej >>> >>> On Jul 24, 2016 9:31 PM, "srinivas kodali" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have some serious concerns with the type of comments being received on >>> mygov on this subject. >>> >>> - Most people want the data to be closed. Weird as it might sound, >>> sensitive data should be closed. These guys want everything closed and >>> only >>> gives access when you authenticate yourself (aadhaarifying everything). >>> This violates the RTI act of requesting data without providing any other >>> information apart from basic contact information. >>> - Fortunately people want warranty of data. Which makes sense. >>> - There were also few concerns about the making authorities liable >>> too. Clearly you don't want them to release private data like your >>> personal >>> details. >>> >>> Over all, number of comments requesting some form of authentication is >>> high. Can some of you request the otherwise as you see fit, I know >>> sometimes the numbers matter. Tomorrow 25th July is the last day to submit >>> the suggestions. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Srinivas Kodali >>> www.lostprogrammer.com >>> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"* >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:12 AM, Craig Dsouza <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Added my comments on the hackpad. >>>> Agree with Dev about the use of insignia,seals etc. There isn't a clear >>>> reason why this should be forbidden as long as the seals are published >>>> along with the dataset it should be ok >>>> Also on Gora's point, non-exclusive should not preclude commercial use >>>> of data. >>>> >>>> With respect to information containing identity it is more tricky. My >>>> initial thoughts were >>>> I don't think we can completely argue for no exemptions, without giving >>>> a clear reason why not. Because we have to ensure personally identifying >>>> information is kept out. Since this license applies to non-digital data as >>>> well, its scope is much wider than data.gov.in. People may be given >>>> documents by government offices where a person' identity is difficult to >>>> obscure. In this case even I would support that the user who has obtained >>>> this data shouldn't publish it openly, but he should have the right to >>>> access, use, adapt the data. The only place I can imagine where personally >>>> identifying information is vital is if someone is gathering information >>>> that could criminally incriminate someone. In this case I honestly don't >>>> know what is appropriate because publishing identity is vital to exposing >>>> the crime. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 3:39:44 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I will add it there on monday. >>>>> On Jul 14, 2016 3:28 PM, "Sitansu Mahapatra" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Thejesh >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope you have contributed the same at >>>>>> https://www.mygov.in/group-issue/public-consultation-government-open-data-use-license-india >>>>>> comment box. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Sitansu >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Thejesh GN <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have updated the document. My only comment was >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Section 6. I think as a license it should talk about only how a >>>>>>> dataset licensed under such a license can be used and as such license >>>>>>> should not be defining what data can be included or excluded. I think >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> "inclusion/exclusion of datasets/points" should be a part of data >>>>>>> sharing >>>>>>> policy and not license. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I might need to rewrite that paragraph ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please add or edit to the hackpad >>>>>>> <https://datameet.hackpad.com/Public-consultation-on-Government-Open-Data-Use-License-India-PyLEZDHW1v7> >>>>>>> so we can send i can submit on monday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thej >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ >>>>>>> http://thejeshgn.com >>>>>>> GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4 July 2016 at 09:45, Thejesh GN <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have the hackpad at >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Public-consultation-on-Government-Open-Data-Use-License-India-PyLEZDHW1v7 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will collect all the feedback until 14th and will post it on 15th >>>>>>>> so we will have enough time to upvote. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thej >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ >>>>>>>> http://thejeshgn.com >>>>>>>> GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 28 June 2016 at 12:58, Anant Gupta <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When we say in point 6.f. that "Identity Documents" are barred >>>>>>>>> from being licensed, does that cover any sort of names >>>>>>>>> I mean if i am able to collect a list of students in a school >>>>>>>>> along with their attributes, will it violate this section? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 11:41:24 AM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I understand this is a consultation only for data.gov.in, but >>>>>>>>>> the policy is for every department. Departments like ISRO, Customs >>>>>>>>>> maintain >>>>>>>>>> their own portals to publish large scale data. The license needs be >>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>> universal and can't be confined to only data.gov.in. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Getting each dept. to publish it's own license would be a tedious >>>>>>>>>> task itself. This would potentially apply to all documents being >>>>>>>>>> published >>>>>>>>>> by government, then yes their is a risk of stumbling upon personal >>>>>>>>>> information which shouldn't be published on the web in the first >>>>>>>>>> place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Srinivas Kodali >>>>>>>>>> www.lostprogrammer.com >>>>>>>>>> *"Not everyone who wanders is lost, I am probably a bit"* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Gora Mohanty < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 28 June 2016 at 10:19, Devdatta Tengshe <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> IMNAL, but Overall this license looks quite ok, except for 6.c >>>>>>>>>>>> & 6.e >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 6.c and 6.e specifically do not seem too worrisome to me, but >>>>>>>>>>> the entirety of point 6 is kind of strange: where are datasets that >>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>> personal information, patent/trademark infringements, and that the >>>>>>>>>>> provider >>>>>>>>>>> is not licensed to supply coming from? Is the GoI saying that >>>>>>>>>>> should the >>>>>>>>>>> datasets on data.gov.in include such data, it is the user's job >>>>>>>>>>> to exclude them. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, 3a seems a little vague to me: what are "non-exclusive >>>>>>>>>>> processes"? Suppose I have a website that uses such data, and >>>>>>>>>>> requires >>>>>>>>>>> users to log in to see the data: is that exclusive? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> All, in all, kudos to data.gov.in for taking a huge step >>>>>>>>>>> forward in making their data accessible. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>> Gora >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. >>>>>>>>>>> Know more about us by visiting http://datameet.org >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "datameet" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. 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