Hello,


To answer this query 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/datameet/exEoW8aGHu0/942hbIAtAwAJ asked 
under Delhi transit data thread, 


Yes, Bangalore's transit schedules data CAN be made to static-GTFS format, 
the global data standard for transport systems that the Delhi data has been 
released in.


The BMTC site is currently not able to show the schedules on its page 
because of a https-http conflict. But here is the same URL seen separately:

http://223.30.102.30:8080/Trip_Planner/TimeTableDetails.jsp?select=gens&count=0&page=0


These are the bare-minimum ingredients needed to make a working static-GTFS 
feed:

1. Centralised list of stops with latitude, longitude and unique-identifier 
stop_id

2. All routes listed, again having unique identifier route_id

3. Sequences of stops in each route, in both directions. Sequence to be by 
id, not by names which can have typo's

4. Starting times of trips in the day, or frequency of trips with first and 
last trip time.


There are other parameters too, but you can pull it off if you have the 
above. All of these are present on the BMTC's trip planner pages.


>From various contacts it seems that BMTC has not been willing to release 
static GTFS for monetization reasons. But with Delhi's data release 
(https://otd.delhi.gov.in/) changing the field, this could be made to 
change. Public pressure can definitely help.


Otherwise, can it be independently made? Yes. In terms of capacity, I can 
do this as a one-off, it'll be time-taking so I'll get to it when I can. 
But I want to reach out in case there's interest in this network for: 

1. making an integrated dataset that combines ALL of Bangalore's public 
transport systems, including the bus, metro and the suburban rail. 

2. keeping it updated, making corrections, not letting it go obsolete. 


That's something which can't happen one-off and needs sustained work. So, 
looking for collaboration on this!


References: past conversations, postings around this topic:

- http://opencity.in/?s=bmtc&id=m

- 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/datameet/transit$20bangalore%7Csort:date

The GTFS specifications: 
https://github.com/google/transit/blob/master/gtfs/spec/en/reference.md


Other data sources for BMTC:

- https://github.com/geohacker/bmtc/

- https://github.com/nihar1024/bengaluru_buses



Regards

Nikhil VJ

Pune, India


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