Hi Jon,

No, I donl;t think I explained what I meant... I also create PDF etc as you 
do...  but there is an online version of the Primo software which allows you to 
send a file and they email it back to you as a pdf... for example supposed you 
had an AudoCAD .dxf file, but didn't have AutoCAD or anything that would allow 
you to view it. You could upload it to the PrimoPDF online and it returns it to 
you in your email as a PDF... My comment had nothing to do with DP, it was was 
just than I noticed and it and thought it was useful for other things other 
than just as a normal PDF creator. 
Personally I have been using JAWS Pdf for many years, both the creator and 
editor.   Adobe 8 however is much better in the application you are using where 
you create forms over the top of a scanned PDF image

Brian

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jong 
  To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:08 PM
  Subject: RE: [Dataperf] A question for the genius bar . . .


  Hi Brian--

  I thought everyone had Adobe reader for PDF files (free download and most 
programs install it)?.  Are we talking about the same PrimoPDF?  They sell some 
other programs but never investigated them as PrimoPDF is all I needed as a 
quick "convert to PDF" program (it installs as if it were an additional windows 
printer).   It's seems to be quicker than the standard Adobe Reader which has 
turned into a massive program that's become slow over the years.  

  Today, I successfully printed from DP to DPspool and then right into PDF file 
using Adobe Acrobat 8.0 professional (which I got as a Christmas gift) -- which 
installs as a windows printer that converts everything into PDF files just like 
PrimoPDF (except it costs like $150 ).  Also, it worked pretty quickly as 
opposed to Adobe Reader.  PrimoPDF ought to work just as well, I meant to use 
it this year but then I got the gift at Christmas.  I set Adobe 8.0 as the 
default printer in the settings and all reports were turned into PDF files that 
were immediately displayed.  After that, I could email, print, or store as 
desired.  I think DP & DPspool can specify the PDF converter as another 
printer, I haven't played with that yet.   

  My next project is scanning all these terrible forms I have to fill out for 
patients directly into PDF documents, then use Adobe 8.0 to create forms, then 
have DP fill them out with some sort of export/merge.

  Also, I was able to install DPx onto Vista today and printed from DPspool 
right onto a USB connected printer -- I wasn't sure if using a USB printer was 
possible on DP!  Admittedly I'm a little late in making these conversions as 
I've been so tied up with work at the clinic.

  Until July last year, I was still entirely in DOS  (18 years of it using DP 
patient database with 40,000 pts on it using a 1995 Compaq Aero 486sx notebook 
computer with a whopping 12mb RAM and 2gb HDD) with a separate computer for 
Windows.  

  Happy new year,
  Jon

   -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Hancock
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:25 AM
  To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group
  Subject: Re: [Dataperf] A question for the genius bar . . .


    Hi Jon,

    As an aside the PrimoOnline is pretty neat....  I occasionally get some of 
the file types that it supports, but do not have programs to display them in or 
print them from, so an online converter like that can come in pretty handy in 
an emergency...

    Bye
    Brian
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: jong 
      To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group 
      Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:58 PM
      Subject: RE: [Dataperf] A question for the genius bar . . .


      Hi fellow geniuses--

      Hope I'm not speaking out of turn!  I've been using Primo PDF for a few 
years and works great, you set it up as a printer in Windows and it 
automatically converts what you send to it into a PDF file.  Works very fast 
and I've never had a problem with it.  
      Anyway,You'd have to get DPspool to send it to this printer somehow, I've 
never tried it but at least it's free (this program has a pretty good 
reputation with everyone I've talked to).

      Here's the free download:
      http://www.primopdf.com/primopdf_free_idx.aspx
      It's pretty cool, no advertising screen splash annoyances.

      Jon Ong


       -----Original Message-----
      From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Perez
      Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 10:45 PM
      To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group
      Subject: RE: [Dataperf] A question for the genius bar . . .


        Hello Don,

         

        Sounds like what you need is a utility that enables your db to create a 
.pdf file. Adobe might have some solutions for you.

         

        The company where I am currently temping - Mighty Leaf Tea - uses an 
app created by Sage Software found at http://sagesoftware.com/ that enables an 
option to deliver .pdf files through the print menu. We use this for our 
International invoicing. Avenue to explore? .

         

        BTW . thought about you while watching the Steelers/Jaguars game. 

         

        All the best,

        Tony

         

         

         

        -----Original Message-----
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don Friedman
        Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 6:00 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: [Dataperf] A question for the genius bar . . .

         

        For many years I've run a report out of DP that I print using a very 
old DOS utility called 4Print. Basically 4Print shrinks the text to print two, 
three or four "regular" pages on a single page. This is how I produced my 
political walk lists. Back in '93 the guy who wrote it actually added an 
optional function just for my use. The program has been invaluable. 

        Today I am trying to create a print file from this program and create a 
.pdf file. I am able to "print" to a filename and when I print that file name 
from the DOS line it prints in the format I want it in. So far, so good. Now my 
task is to figure out how to "print" that file into a .pdf format. Does anyone 
have a clue? 

        I figured that I'd ask here before venturing off on any wild tangents.

        Don





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