Hi Tom It's been a long time since you helped me, and a business between; but I have been silently following the discussion group and using their help to continue.
"or alternatively, that they have run into same problem I am facing." Yes, I think I had a similar problem but in another configuration. Background: I am integrating my SIS: Sales Information System DP into the freeform database AskSam. The changes that Lew made as a command line database hit the target and make DP very useful as data processor and storage. AskSam will function as menu and it calls DP panels and reports to complement the freeform text formats of AskSam. Problem: I am work on W98 on a standalone machine. AskSam has a a program executor or launcher. It launches WORD or any other Windows program fine. But it would not execute a DP database. At first as in your case, it would change directories but did not see the DP database name and open the .STR file. I got farther by picking the directory and folder with the search button. I could not simply write the command line instructions to change the directory and open the application, but had to physically pick the db folder. Then it opened the application in the application directory but would not open the database in the folder. No matter what I tried DP would not execute as the other programs did. Having followed the excellant treatment from Brian on his web based db, I put the command line options into a batch file. The executor now launches or excutes the batch file and DP loads the db. Here is the batch file to load the DP application: C:\d0000\dp C:\d0000\kunden23\kunden23 where C:\d0000\kunden23\kunden23 is the location of the DP database and name. C:\d0000\dp executes DP as you know. You could open a batch file on the network that loads the database. I followed Brian's instructions that are part of the discussion group messages. Good Luck- Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 4:57 AM Subject: Dataperf Digest, Vol 13, Issue 19 > Send Dataperf mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.dataperfect.nl/mailman/listinfo/dataperf > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Dataperf digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: DP Vista Novell (TomYuhas) > 2. Re: DP Vista Novell (Brian Hancock) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:11:49 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > From: TomYuhas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell > To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.dataperfect.nl/pipermail/dataperf/attachments/20080124/99ff0ede /attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:56:01 +1100 > From: "Brian Hancock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell > To: "Dataperfect Users Discussion Group" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Tom, > > Yes a strange one... > > There could be an error in a vendors implementation of their IPX or IP stack that could cause a networking problem, but essentially they are a low level transport mechanisms independant for the purposes of general file sharing from the application and what you are observing seems to be something occurring higher up the network protocol stack. > > When you start DP can you get a directory listing of the STR files in the current folder? IS DP actually opening in the folder you expect? When you select 2 - Change Directory from the opening DP screen is it the directory you expect? Can you place the STR on a local drive and start DP from the network location and change directory to that local folder and then open the STR? Can you do visa versa. ie start DP from a local folder, and change Directory to a Network directory to load an STR? > > Regards > Brian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: TomYuhas > To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 7:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell > > > Yes, I am quite sure that drive mapping is ok and all file and path names are 8.3. In fact, since I can see dp.exe in same directory, and launch it, and see all the other dp app panel and txx and ind files, I think you are right about something really weird. > > I have searched the forums but have not located anything remotely similar. The IPX problem appears in many forums, so I just followed that as far as I could before posting my question here -- and including the iPX reference, in case that had meaning to someone. > > What I'd really like to hear is that someone is running DP on Novell network successfully from a vista machine -- or alternatively, that they have run into same problem I am facing. > > > Thanks for the reply. > > Tom > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Hancock > Sent: Jan 23, 2008 8:41 PM > To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group > Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell > > > Hi Tom, > > Although one cannot discount some weird problem with Vista and the Novell network, I would put an incompatibility like that way down the list of things to be looking for, no matter how obscure the problem looks... > > Did you have a look at the folder name on the mapped drive to see if it was in 8.3 format... It could be that the WP files are in a folder in 8.3 format but the DP file are in a folder with the same drive letter but with a long file name somewhere in the path... This of course is only a problem if the create long is turned off... on either the server or the Vista machine... > > I have not been involved with Novell for a few years so I am not sure about the issue of Long file Names. > > Personally I think it will have something to do with file or directory names. Failing all the related issues to this then I would start looking at forums and and support document on both Novell and Microsoft web sites... and also at the Novell client settings, for Burst mode... and network file caching... > > Good luck > Brian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell > > > Yes I do have connection to network using Novell's new netware drivers for Vista. > > Yes I do have rights to mapped drive and, in fact, I can run wp51 and open and close and save changes to wp5.1 files without any problem -- folders on the same mapped drive letter. > > In fact, I can start dp that resides in the exact same mapped drive letter folder, but when it comes up, it does not display the app that resides in the same mapped drive folder. > > So, you think IPX issue is a red herring, and I don't know enough about what lack of IPX means -- I was just taking a wild guess with no understanding. > > I think this all adds up to a mystery caused by incompatibility of Netware drivers for vista with DP's STR file or something in DP that doesn't recognize its own STR if it is located on a Novell Network accessed from a Vista workstation. > > Thank you all for your comments, but I guess we are beating this to death without progress. > > Tom > > Michael Shadel wrote: > > Tom, > > If you can see and browse the network from the vista machine then that means that you are connected or logged into the server Thus you must have a Novell client loaded on the vista machine and making the connection. Now weather the client is connecting with IP or IPX does not really matter. I have avoided vista so far so I do not no if Novell has made a client for vista. I do know that sense Netware 5.1 connectivity by IP has been possible and with 6.0 and 6.5 you have to check a box in order to use IPX. > > Are there any rights set up that lets you browse a network drive but not run or write to the drive. Would it make any difference if you ran dp locally or can you? Does vista have a firewall stopping you? > > Michael > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Matt, > > Although I have a high degree of suspision that IPX is reason I cannot see dp apps, my knowledge of such matters is so limited that I was hoping someone could connect the dots for me and say for sure that dp and novell are not compatible with Vista generally but here is a work around. I guess that is not going to happen. In fact, I came to the conclusion only because of postings I found that you also found and forwarded. > > But thanks again for trying. > > Matt Dwyer wrote: > > No, I did not have that problem - sorry I can't be more helpful. I only > have two stupid thoughts: > 1) I assume you are persistently assigning drive letters and not using > UNC? I don't think I can get unc to work in dos (errr, cmd window). > 2) I don't suppose the old shell /nt= switch would help? > > I see there are some excruciating posts about this ipx issue: > http://tinyurl.com/32xyfu > http://tinyurl.com/3c97vl > > The end of the last one says you can do ipx-less clients in NW6.5, but > not sure if that works for you. Perhaps not. I bailed on Groupwise and > NW a long time ago, so my NW knowledge has evaporated. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TomYuhas > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:36 PM > To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group > Subject: RE: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell > > Thanks Matt but I think Novell experience may be different. The problem > is seeing the app after starting DP -- no apps appear listed on network > folder, even though one is clearly present -- it just does not show in > DP -- but does show in any file manager. Also, if I try to create a new > database on network folder, it errors out. I'll need to look at error > code if you need that, but DP just does not like network folder even > though I am able to start DP from the same network folder. > > I think I have a handle on shortcut setup -- although I am starting DP > from WP Office Shell 3.1. DP starts fine as I mentioned earlier, it > just does not display any apps in the same directory that DP is started > from and same as designated directory in Shell setup. > > So, I wonder if at anytime during your network setup did you run into > problem where you could start DP but could not see any apps displayed? > If yes, what setting changed that? > > Thanks again, > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Dwyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Jan 22, 2008 11:59 AM > To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell > > I use Vista on W2K3 server (tcp/ip). Vista is a pita to set up, but > once set up was fine. > > Not sure I remember all I did to set it up, here is some of it. You > can specify compatibility mode when you run a batch file/shortcut, I > assume you messed with that already. If not, start there. > > HP printers need a new universal printing driver, and you need to > install it in dynamic mode, not traditional mode. I think. > > Protected root directory, so I made a c:\batch directory. > > Some shortcuts work better if you select RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR > > Use SETX instead of SET to set variables (SETX is sticky, so one time > only) > > For help files, see http://tinyurl.com/2n2z7g > > I think I had some other tricks too if this list is too short. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 2:14 PM > To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group > Subject: [Dataperf] DP Vista Novell > > I posted a question earlier regarding use of DP on Novell Netware 6.5 > network from a Vista Ultimate workstation. > > I cannot see the network STR selection after launching DP. This is a > huge problem since law office has been running client.case DP database > since 1992. > > DP launches fine, I can even select a DP App located on the > workstation, I just can't see -- so cannot select -- any DP application > > located on the server. > > First, is anyone using DP App located on any type network server from a > > Vista workstation? > > Has anyone found a work around for the problem with Novell network from > > Vista work stations -- other than virtual win98 machine solution which > I've already employed -- but not really satisfactorily? > > Does anyone have theory on why files can be viewed using vista from > just about any file manager but once DP launches it cannot see its own > application from within DP? > > Could lack of IPX support for Vista and For Netware Vista Drivers have > anything to do with this? > > Thanks. > > Tom Yuhas > > _______________________________________________ > Dataperf mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.dataperfect.nl/mailman/listinfo/dataperf > _______________________________________________ > Dataperf mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.dataperfect.nl/mailman/listinfo/dataperf > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Dataperf mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.dataperfect.nl/mailman/listinfo/dataperf > _______________________________________________ > Dataperf mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.dataperfect.nl/mailman/listinfo/dataperf > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Dataperf mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.dataperfect.nl/mailman/listinfo/dataperf > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > _______________________________________________ > Dataperf mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.dataperfect.nl/mailman/listinfo/dataperf > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.dataperfect.nl/pipermail/dataperf/attachments/20080125/047491e0 /attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Dataperf mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.dataperfect.nl/mailman/listinfo/dataperf > > > End of Dataperf Digest, Vol 13, Issue 19 > **************************************** _______________________________________________ Dataperf mailing list [email protected] http://lists.dataperfect.nl/mailman/listinfo/dataperf
