Hi Victor,
That is a tough one, in one case you want some of the data in the field converted to HTML but other cases (ie the embedded HTML) left as literal text. I can't think of any easy way around that, is there too much data to convert it all to HTML, ie including the italics and line feeds etc, to save in the DP field, so the field only contains the final HTML marked up data and not DP formatted data? Another way might be to use the data as XML data, and add a namespace to the link <a> element, eg <html:a href="qweqwe">text</html:a> and then use an XSLT transformation to convert back the entities Regards Brian _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Victor Warner Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 9:35 PM To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group Subject: Re: [Dataperf] ;;W query Brian, Thank you for the response. "Do you have DP Alphanumeric fields which not only contain HTML formatting, but also include DP formatting, eg lines feeds, bold underline etc?" Yes "Do you have a sample of the data value that is contained in the field, and how you would like it outputted?" This is as the data is entered into the Alphanumeric field (and the word "Purpose" would show as underline): "Purpose: This site provides an useful oversite as to what is harassment in housing/accommodation sitatuions (eg landlord and tenant). Also there is a <a href= <http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/advice_topics/eviction/harassment_ and_illegal_eviction/practical_steps> "http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/advice_topics/eviction/harassment_ and_illegal_eviction/practical_steps" target="_blank">page</a> which provides useful information the practical steps a person facing harassment can take. Also <a href= <http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/advice_topics/eviction/harassment_ and_illegal_eviction/what_counts_as_harassment> "http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/advice_topics/eviction/harassment_ and_illegal_eviction/what_counts_as_harassment" target="_blank">this page</a> provides a list of activities in a housing situation which can amount to harassment. There is also information on how to "deal" with harassment." And this is how I would like this outputted (using ;;W or some other method) <i>Purpose</i>: This site provides an useful oversite as to what is harassment in housing/accommodation sitatuions (eg landlord and tenant). <br /> <br /> Also there is a <a href= <http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/advice_topics/eviction/harassment_ and_illegal_eviction/practical_steps> "http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/advice_topics/eviction/harassment_ and_illegal_eviction/practical_steps" target="_blank">page</a> which provides useful information the practical steps a person facing harassment can take. Also <a href= <http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/advice_topics/eviction/harassment_ and_illegal_eviction/what_counts_as_harassment> "http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/advice_topics/eviction/harassment_ and_illegal_eviction/what_counts_as_harassment" target="_blank">this page</a> provides a list of activities in a housing situation which can amount to harassment. There is also information on how to "deal" with harassment. <br /> <br /> Victor Brian Hancock wrote: Hi Victor, Do you have DP Alphanumeric fields which not only contain HTML formatting, but also include DP formatting, eg lines feeds, bold underline etc? If it is just HTML code in the field, and you are outputting the field for its HTML to be rendered in say a browser, then there is no need to use the ;;W. If you output without the ;;W then the field would be output as is. Do you have a sample of the data value that is contained in the field, and how you would like it outputted? Regards Brian -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Victor Warner Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 7:25 PM To: Dataperfect Users Discussion Group Subject: Re: [Dataperf] ;;W query Brian, Thank you for the very informative and detailed reply. For the field concerned there is a range of characters/formatting, which I would like converted using ;;w (bold/italic, quotes, ampersands). I wish to create very simple (and only) (x)html pages (certainly not xml pages). The bottom line appears that if I wish to use ;;w on field then I cannot specify or retain any "convertable" characters as is. Thank you again for the explanation. Victor Brian Hancock wrote: Hi Victor, That is by design. The five special XML/HTML characters that DP2.6Y converts are < > " ' &. These bare characters must not be used inside an attribute (eg the 'href' attribute of the anchor '<a>' element) or as other unparsed data in well formed XML or XHTML. If you have a complete HTML or XML element in a field then you should not need to use the ;;W indicator to populate a page. It becomes somewhat complex when you are using HTML fragments as data inside an XML document when the fragment may not be well formed XML, because using it without the ;;W would cause the XML document to no longer be well formed as would create errors in the XML application (Browser etc) In this case depending on the circumstance you can include the raw data inside a CDATA section such as <MYHTML> <![CDATA[<a href="blah">xxx<a/>]]> </MYHTML> In this case leaving off the ;;W would generally give you what is required even if the HTML fragement is not well formed XML. Ideally you would try to make sure that HTML fragments are XHTML. If you are using XSLT the special characters in a CDATA section will likely still convert to things like " so on some XSLT processors you can control this with disable-output-escaping attrbitue in the xsl instruction eg <xsl:value-of select="." disable-output-escaping="yes" />. However this does not work with Firefox browsers. So in this case it is better to make sure that the data is well formed XHTML, or use a different server-side XSLT processor. DP2.6Y improves the XHTML compliance by ensuring that alphanumeric fields when used with the ;;W indicator output well formed XHTML. In DP2.6X, bolded and underlined DP data is converted to uppercase <B> or <U> tags and in 2.6Y they are lowercase <b>, <i>, <u> in 2.6X line breaks are output as <BR> but in 2.6Y they become <br /> where you have overlapped bolded and underlined DP text, the ;;W does not correct the nesting, so it can still break XML. The ;;W indicator also does not work in the apply.format[] function. It would be very nice if it did, as you could get much better control. I asked Lew about it and he said it was quite difficult, so it was left for a future day. Regards Brian -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Victor Warner Sent: Wednesday, 15 October 2008 1:07 AM To: 'Dataperfect Users Discussion Group' Subject: [Dataperf] ;;W query I am beginning to understand (somewhat) how the ;;W print mode indicator works, however there is one thing I would like some clarification: If within a Alphanumeric field I would like to create a <a href=" ">xxx</a> link, and I put this link code in the '"' gets turned to '"' and the '<' and '>' also get changed. Is it possible to specify these type of characters so that they do not get converted for html use but retain the benefit of using ;;W for all the other things which I wish to be converted? 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