Thank you to all who responded! Gregg Hill
________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 7:53:43 PM Subject: Dataperf Digest, Vol 2, Issue 6 Send Dataperf mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.dataperfect.nl/mailman/listinfo/dataperf or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Dataperf digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: DP 2.6f on XP/Vista and SBS 2003/2008 (Brian Hancock) 2. Re: DP 2.6f on XP/Vista and SBS 2003/2008 (Chris Pedersen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:05:01 +1000 From: "Brian Hancock" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DP 2.6f on XP/Vista and SBS 2003/2008 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <60885978ed244dc3a1135c5032977...@brian4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Miguel, 1. DP is a file database so your users need to just have a mapped drive on the file server. You can use any DOS or DOS emulating client, Win31, Win95, Win98, Win2000, WinXP. or you can run it in a terminal server windows under Win2003. The easiest way to deply a DP application is to copy all the application files in one folder, and include the executables DP.EXE and DP.SYS. Since the program itself is very tiny, there is no issue about loading the executables across the network from the server. DP creates temporary files in the same folder as the application files unlee you start it with the /D-[drive:path] startup switch to set as different temp folder. 2. DP generally needs little or no maintenance. On rare occasions if you have been moving files around and have screwed something up you might need to do a reindex (Shift-F9). Some people advocate the use of a "Big Clean" where you export all the data into a log file, and then reimport it, as a way to clean out nasties, but personally in 18 years of using it I have never had t do it.. Usually maintina it is a matter of adding the new functionality that application always seem to demand. 3. There is no automatic conversion to MS Access. I use MS Access extensively, and even if there was a simple way of exporting data and definitions into Access you would probably find that the design paradigms are so dissimilar that you are better designing from scratch rather than converting. You can use DP reports to export data. Reports offer low level access, so you can create CSV files, Tab delimited files, or WordPerfect secondary files, or even XML. If you are a whizz with the Access XML database schema you can actually write an export from DP which you can take the entire set of data and panel definition etc, and convert it to Access. I have done it once as a purely academic exercise so it can be done, but it takes for ages and is very complicated. 4. DP upgrades are as simple as replacing the older DP.EXE and DP.SYS file with the newer ones. 5. There are heaps of good resources through this mailing list and associated website http://dataperfect.nl <http://dataperfect.nl/> Regards Brian _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel Monk Sent: Monday, 20 April 2009 4:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Dataperf] DP 2.6f on XP/Vista and SBS 2003/2008 Hello! I have never worked with DP before, and I have several questions. 1) I am wondering if DP 2.6f can be moved from old Win98 stations to have the database on a Small Business Server 2003 or 2008 server, with clients being XP Pro or Vista Business/Ultimate. 2) What is involved in maintaining DP, i.e., is there some sort of periodic database maintenance that needs to be done? 3) Can DP be exported to MS Access 2007? 4) And finally, how does one upgrade from DP 27.6f to 2.6y? Thank you for your help! Gregg Hill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.dataperfect.nl/pipermail/dataperf/attachments/20090421/87b90566/attachment.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:48:16 +0000 From: Chris Pedersen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DP 2.6f on XP/Vista and SBS 2003/2008 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" It would be cool if the web site had a FAQ, and if there were the ability to search a knowledgebase. For example, I know I have append CR/LF's to text data.. a thousand times. I just don't remember *how* I did it. From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:05:01 +1000 Subject: Re: [Dataperf] DP 2.6f on XP/Vista and SBS 2003/2008 Hi Miguel, 1. DP is a file database so your users need to just have a mapped drive on the file server. You can use any DOS or DOS emulating client, Win31, Win95, Win98, Win2000, WinXP? or you can run it in a terminal server windows under Win2003. The easiest way to deply a DP application is to copy all the application files in one folder, and include the executables DP.EXE and DP.SYS. Since the program itself is very tiny, there is no issue about loading the executables across the network from the server. DP creates temporary files in the same folder as the application files unlee you start it with the /D-[drive:path] startup switch to set as different temp folder. 2. DP generally needs little or no maintenance. On rare occasions if you have been moving files around and have screwed something up you might need to do a reindex (Shift-F9). Some people advocate the use of a ?Big Clean? where you export all the data into a log file, and then reimport it, as a way to clean out nasties, but personally in 18 years of using it I have never had t do it.. Usually maintina it is a matter of adding the new functionality that application always seem to demand. 3. There is no automatic conversion to MS Access? I use MS Access extensively, and even if there was a simple way of exporting data and definitions into Access you would probably find that the design paradigms are so dissimilar that you are better designing from scratch rather than converting. You can use DP reports to export data. Reports offer low level access, so you can create CSV files, Tab delimited files, or WordPerfect secondary files, or even XML. If you are a whizz with the Access XML database schema you can actually write an export from DP which you can take the entire set of data and panel definition etc, and convert it to Access? I have done it once as a purely academic exercise so it can be done, but it takes for ages and is very complicated. 4. DP upgrades are as simple as replacing the older DP.EXE and DP.SYS file with the newer ones. 5. There are heaps of good resources through this mailing list and associated website http://dataperfect.nl Regards Brian From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel Monk Sent: Monday, 20 April 2009 4:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Dataperf] DP 2.6f on XP/Vista and SBS 2003/2008 Hello! I have never worked with DP before, and I have several questions. 1) I am wondering if DP 2.6f can be moved from old Win98 stations to have the database on a Small Business Server 2003 or 2008 server, with clients being XP Pro or Vista Business/Ultimate. 2) What is involved in maintaining DP, i.e., is there some sort of periodic database maintenance that needs to be done? 3) Can DP be exported to MS Access 2007? 4) And finally, how does one upgrade from DP 27.6f to 2.6y? Thank you for your help! 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