Hi Larry,
Go back to 1998. See if this is what you remembered.
Rich
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:46:23 +0100
From: "S.R.A. van den Bogaard" <[email protected]>
To: "DataPerfect" <[email protected]>
Subject: Running updated reports from menu
I have defined several reports and selected them for a menu.
Some reports were changed AFTER they were selected for the menu.
When I run those reports from the menu, the old version (without the
changes) is printed (the time-field ([Shift]-[F7], [1], [2]) however is
updated!).
When I [Shift]-[F7] from within a panel, select the adjusted report and
[Shift]-[F7] to run the report, I get an correct output including the
changes I made.
So, the question is:
must an existing entry (to run a report) in the menu first be deleted
and then again be created to print the changes in a report?
I did some more testing: even when I delete the report I'm still able to
run the report !!!
Where does DP save the report and, more important, WHY?
Please, tell me.
Stan.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:12:31 -0800
From: "Lloyd Van't Haaff" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Running updated reports from menu -Reply
>>> jeroen vader <[email protected]> 15 January 1998 3:58 pm >>>
S.R.A. van den Bogaard wrote:
> So, the question is:
> must an existing entry (to run a report) in the menu first be deleted
> and then again be created to print the changes in a report?
>
> I did some more testing: even when I delete the report I'm still able to
> run the report !!!
>
> Where does DP save the report and, more important, WHY?
Reports than run from a menu option are stored separately in the str.
You can check this by running a complete export (run dpexp) and then
load the resulting .ste file into an editor.
Why? Maybe because it makes it possible to make changes to a report
while other users can still use the menu option using the original
version of the report? I can think of no other valid reason.
>
> Please, tell me.
>
> Stan.
I have found this feature most useful - although I went through the
same initial confusion that you have. In my case, I have many
different users who like the various report formats that have been
developed. However, not all users are interested in seeing the same
data. In some cases they want the same data, but sorted differently.
Because DP stores menu driven reports separately, I can maintain one
master report and add different search conditions and/or indexes to
specific reports which appear in specific users menus. As long as
you keep track of which conditions are relevant to a particular menu,
this keeps report maintenance to a minimum - tremendously flexible too!
:) Lloyd
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:31:45 -0500
From: "Ralph Alvy [WPUSERS]" <[email protected]>
To: DataPerfect Conference <[email protected]>
Subject: Running updated reports from menu
Regarding reports that are attached to menus, they are COPIES of reports on
the Report List. If you change the version on the Report List, you have
done absolutely nothing to the one on the menu. You must reassign the menu
report by first deleting it and then selecting it from the Report List.
Otherwise, just edit the report on the menu itself. In that case, you have
done nothing to the one on the Report List.
I use the first method outlined above.
Is this clear?
RA
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:22:44 EST
From: CompuSoFL <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Running updated reports from menu
In a message dated 98-01-15 18:41:58 EST, you write:
<< Regarding reports that are attached to menus, they are COPIES of reports on
the Report List. If you change the version on the Report List, you have
done absolutely nothing to the one on the menu. You must reassign the menu
report by first deleting it and then selecting it from the Report List.
Otherwise, just edit the report on the menu itself. In that case, you have
done nothing to the one on the Report List.
I use the first method outlined above.
Is this clear?
>>
I use Ralph's method of updating reports on menu's regularly. On the flip
side of the coin Ralph, is there a faster, easier way that you are aware of to
update menus with new versions of the report other than deleting them
individually and reataching the new report to the menus? Perhaps through
the STE file???
My app has over 80 reports on my dispatch app and half of which are updated
often on 6 different menu "access" levels. I'd like to try to automate the
updating of the menus if possible to avoid mistakes on my part. I've
sometimes attached the wrong report to a menu prompt causing confusion to the
user!!
Thanks
John Cabrera
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:45:29 -0500
From: "Ralph Alvy [WPUSERS]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Running updated reports from menu
John,
You certainly can replace one report with another within the STE file,
though I never do this. It may be faster to use STE Manager. I haven't used
STE Manager for a while, but seem to remember you can move reports around
the whole application very easily, but just editing but a single field
within STE Manager.
If I were to use a text editor, with the STE file loaded, I imagine I'd
take the new report and save it to a separate file. Then I'd do a Search
for all the old versions of it. For each one, I'd do a delete-and-retrieve.
RA
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:43:13 -0500
From: Brendan Magill <[email protected]>
To: DP Discussion Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Running updated reports from menu
Stan,
Unlike Ralph and John, I always delete reports from the report list as
soon as I've placed a copy of them in a menu. I do this for two reasons
Firstly, I found that some of my apps were getting very large because I was
keeping two copies of many large reports. Secondly, I've observed that
reports on menus develop a life of their own in that users of particular
menus wish to have their reports customized in different ways; having to
copy a "master" report from the report list each time a change was required
in a menu report can lead to errors and omissions. I rarely use the report
list and then only for non-user purposes. I keep a blank report based on
my System Parameters panel in the report list and use this as the starting
point for all new reports.
I do regularly edit STE files with ED to move and copy reports within
menus. This is quite easy as long as you're careful with what you do and
keep a backup copy of the STR or STE. Certainly, if you feel unsure about
working in this way, STE-Manager can be a very useful tool.
Brendan.
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At 06:03 PM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
I forgot how to move a report from one sub menu to another.
I can't find the email threads that discussed this (many years ago).
As I recall this involved doing some surgery on the .ste file but I'd
like to try to know what I'm doing before I try this.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Larry Neuton
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