Hi All,

I've forwarded Brian's descriptive email re the problem to all three email 
addresses I have for Udo Tjalsma in the Netherlands. Hopefully he will get at 
least one on them and can implement the necessary fix.

Regards

Colin Roberts
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charles G. Wolf 
  To: DataPerfect Users Discussion Group 
  Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 11:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Posting's reply address


  Looking at other threads, the change in the DP server that eliminated the 
"Reply-To" line first happened when I received a "Welcome to the dataperf 
mailing list" email on 2/19/2012 at 3:51 pm.  Prior to that, in another thread, 
at 3:27 pm on 2/19/2012, the Reply-To line was still there.  

  It looks like our Dutch friend (can't remember his name, but we had ice cream 
together at our last get-together) made some server changes.

  Charlie




  Charles G. Wolf wrote: 
    Brian, et. al.,

    I use Thunderbird (ver 2.0), and notice the same thing is happening.  Going 
 back to older messages, I notice the dataperf server included a "Reply-To" 
line which disappeared sometime between Feb. 13 and Feb. 19.  The problem is in 
the Netherlands, not any of our email programs.

    Charlie


    Brian Hancock wrote: 
      Thanks Tim. I will try accessing the server directly.  There was a 
Postfix update released on the 18th February, and perhaps it is the culprit.  
Glad to know I do not have to wade through the issue with everyone else on the 
path.



      Regards

      Brian




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      From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Rude
      Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2012 7:29 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Posting's reply address



      Yup. I have the same problem with replying via email.



      I posted a reply to Don Friedman's message some days ago and realized 
later that it went directly to him rather than the group.



      When replying to your message here, I had to manually change the reply 
address to keep from answering you directly.



      It appears that the following line is missing from recent headers:



      Reply-To: [email protected]



      That kinda sounds like it might be something changed in the configuration 
of the list server.



      FWIW, using OE's newsgroup reader, though, I'm still getting messages 
through gmane with no problem. I've got it set up to access the news.gmane.org 
server directly.



      Tim Rude

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Brian Hancock 

        To: [email protected] 

        Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 4:01 PM

        Subject: [Dataperf] Posting's reply address



        Hi Everyone,



        I have an email addressing and header problem with emails and 
newsgroups reader from the DP group.



        Since the 20th February 2012 if I click reply in Outlook 2003 to a 
posting email, instead of the reply addressing ('To:' field) being the 
'DataPerfect Users Discussion Group', the "To:" address is the actual address 
of the original sender. I can of course override this and replace it with the 
'[email protected]' address, but it is annoying, since clicking reply 
works for all messages up until this date but if I click a later dated one it 
exhibits the problem.  But for the first couple of messages I replied to since 
this date I did not even check the dates so they presumably went directly to 
the poster, I only noticed the problem when they were not appearing in my DP 
email folder.



        I have looked at the headers of emails since that date and they are 
very different in composition than the ones before. 



        Once upon a time I used to be smart enough to read the header of an 
email and be able to say with someone certainty what it all means, but there 
are so many header fields and custom header in mail messages these days that I 
have given up. Suffice it to say that the old emails had Header Sections of 
about 50 lines long, and the problematic ones are more than 110 lines long. Its 
not only the originating email program that writes into the Header Section of 
an email; processes along its pathway can add their bit too (even your own 
antivirus and spam filters can mess round with it), so the problem might be 
somewhere between the DP Mailing list server and my email client.





        I also have Outlook Express on my computer which I occasionally use for 
DP User Discussions Group postings using its News Reader client, as they seem 
to arrive in the news reader far faster than in my email client, so before 
replying to a posting I often check if someone else has already done so. 
Curiously since the 20th December 2012, no more messages have come from the 
gmane.comp.db.dataperfect.general newsgroups, which could I guess be a problem 
with my ISPs filtering of newsgroups or something.  I think our federal 
government has told ISP that they are responsible for filtering out any banned 
material, and since Microsoft always seems to hold much sway with governments 
and they seem to be wanting to put an end to this obscene MS-DOS related 
material, they may have instructed the Australian Government to ban us. J 



        Has anyone else experienced a similar problem with their email and news 
reader clients recently?



        Bye

        Brian




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