You can set the working directory in the
properties for the dataperfect shortcut to point
to the actual directory you want ( bearing in
mind that DP only handles 8 char folder names -
so you might want to MAP or SUBST a drive letter to the folder you want)
Bob
At 06:39 PM 05/02/2013, Don Codling wrote:
Iâve been following this thread with interest,
looking to the future, and the future just
arrived when my computer died. Iâve installed
VM player (free) and the VM Toolshop, running
WinXP SP3 (up to date) because I donât think
my Win95 allowed me to cut and paste from WP.
Iâve set it up to share my Win 7 Data Perfect
directory. But it is a pain to use. When I open
Data Perfect, it uses as its default directory
C:\DOCUME~1\OWNER\DESKTOP\, instead of the
directory in which it is installed
(\\vmware-host\Shared Folders\DataPerf). So when
I try to open one of my databases, it isnât
there. If I delete the default directory and
paste in \\vmware-host\Shared Folders\DataPerf,
the subdirectories with my various data bases
are available, but when I choose change
directory, it does not display them, as it used
to do. I need to remember the directory name and
type it in. Is this inherent in a virtual
machine? Or have I missed something in my setup?
Don Codling Windows 7 home, 64 bit, up to date
DP 2.6X 4 GBytes RAM On 23/03/2013 11:20 PM,
Eric Donn wrote: > Hi all, > > Like Brian I use
VMware Player - and the virtual machine is
Windows XP. I use tamedos, and using Uwe
Sieber's freeware DOS fonts in combination with
the screen size on the layout tab of a shortcut
to DP you can get the DP almost the size of the
screen but windowed. > Also like Brian I use
predominantly W7 64bit but also have some XP and
W7 32bit machines, and I also run virtual
machines. I have virtualised MSDOS and IBM
PCDOS 2000 but that does not allow the use of
DPSpool. It takes less than an hour to get up
and running with VMware player. > > VMware
workstation costs around $200 US and that allows
you to clone virtual machines. > > Regards >
Eric Donn > Director > J.I.T. Systems Ltd >
âZERO DOWN TIME OR WE FIX IT FOR FREEâ > > >
-----Original Message----- > From:
[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent:
Sunday, 17 February 2013 11:00 > To:
[email protected] > Subject: Re:
[Dataperf] Screen size win7/32 > > G'day
Geert, > > But there are often compelling
reasons to use the 64bit variant. I have so
many computers with so many variants of
operating systems, versions of applications I
have written, versions of Microsoft Office etc
that I need to still occasionally support. So in
the interests of de-cluttering, and reducing my
electricity bills (cutting greenhouse emissions
and saving the planet) I decided I should dump
the machines and create Virtual images of them,
and load them in VMWare, so I have reduced my
PC's down to 2 (you got to have one spare if the
other breaks down). Windows 32Bit cannot access
enough RAM for my liking, but with my Windows 7
64-bit with 16Gb RAM INTEL i7, I can run three
or four Windows sessions simultaneously each
using an optimal amount of RAM - and in fact
individually they each run faster as VM on the
newer hardware than they ran as physical
machines. Also many machines comes preloaded
with the 64Bit version of Windows 7, or my
clients have them, so it's not going to go
away. > > But if I need to run a virtual machine
for a specific application, eg DP, I do not want
to use a slower more resource hungry operating
system than I need, also if you use say Windows
7 - 32Bit as a virtual machine, any changes you
make to the virtual hardware potentially means
you have to reactivate Windows, and if runs out
of activation before Microsoft thinks you are a
pirate you have to call and explain and beg
Microsoft to let you reactivate. Which is why I
advocate if you go the virtual PC way, you go
for the slimmest non-activating OS that you can
work with. > > Bye > Brian > > -----Original
Message----- > From:
[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: Sunday
, 17 February 2013 2:17 AM > To:
[email protected] > Subject: Re:
[Dataperf] Screen size win7/32 > > I still think
that a WIN 7/32 CD is the cheapest and easiest
solution for dummies like me :) > > Regards, >
Geert. > > PS: > I live in the south of France
and I may be able to take care of two Aussie
kids for a couple of weeks without breaching any
Microsoft licencing, on the condition that they
can survive on french food ! ;) > > > On Sat, 16
Feb 2013 10:50:52 +0100, Gerard van Loenhout
<[email protected]> wrote: >> Brian, how
much does a babysitter cost nowadays in Sydney
and how much >> time would you need ;-)
Gerard > >> 2013/2/16
<[email protected]> >>> Hi all,**** >>>
** ** >>> I run DP on Win7Pro 64bit, using
VMWare Player. It easy to do, and >>> you get
great performance if you use say Windows 98SE as
the Guest >>> operating system. You can of
course use Win 7 32Bit as the Guest >>>
operating system but thatâs a lot of overhead
to run a DOS app that >>> itself can easily fit
a floppy diskette if anyone could ever find
one >>> of those relics from the past.
**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I have also had
reasonable success with running FreeDOS/PCDOS
and >>> MSDOS as the guest operating system, but
there a few hurdles to >>>
overcome. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Firstly
you need to create a VM Machine and hard drive
and leave it >>> empty. **** >>> >>> Then you
have to create a DOS bootable virtual floppy
boot disk, (I >>> am trying to think what
software I used for that), but you can tell >>>
VMWare to use this âfloppy diskette imageâ,
and its bidirectional, >>> you can read and
write to the virtual image from within VMWare.
You >>> need to configure the VM to use this
image as its floppy diskette >>> (You can do the
same thing with CD-ROM or ISO images, but since
you >>> need to install drivers into DOS to read
the CD-ROM it is something >>> of a Catch-22,
you can add CD-ROM support later in the >>>
configuration)**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I
should add that the Virtual Floppy Diskette
image must contain not >>> just the boot files,
but also you will probably need utilities
like >>> Format.com, MSCDEX.EXE, XCOPY, etc etc,
whatever you can fit into >>> 1.44Mb (I have
never gotten the 2.88Mb Floppy image VMWare
supports >>> to work)**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>>
The next hurdle is to get VMWare to boot this
floppy, normally it >>> will want to boot from
the virtual hard drive you originally
create, >>> and the damn things runs so fast
that you canât press the F2 or F12 >>> key to
configure create a boot sequence so that it
tries to boot from >>> the floppy first. If you
insert âbios.bootDelay = "5000"â as a
line >>> in the VMâs VMX file then you will
get a 5 second (5000 milliseconds) >>> window of
opportunity to get to the F12 key to choose to
boot from >>> floppy. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>>
Ok, so here you are. Probably looking at a very
familiar screen (for >>> older >>> members)
where you are asked to enter todayâs time and
date, followed >>> by another familiar C:\> It
all becomes very nostalgic.**** >>> >>> **
** >>> >>> So then you have to do some work. The
next thing to test your memory >>> and internet
researching abilities is to set up the
autoexec.bat and >>> config.sys so that you can
configure the DOS memory, HIMEM UMB, Files >>>
and Buffers (you need these to get DP to work, a
minimum of 40 >>> files). (DO NOT be tempted to
load SHARE, it was never much use >>> anyway).
You also need to add the Driver for the CDROM
and parameters >>> into the config.sys, and
MSCDEX and its parameters into the >>>
autoexec.bat. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> But
once you have that you have a virtual machine
that boots up (and >>> very quickly if you
remove or change the bios.bootDelay
parameter, >>> and get to a comfortable C:\> in
no time flat, unless you left the >>> boot
sequence to Floppy diskette and still have the
image in.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Ok now to
whet your appetite you will need to get DP and
say a DP >>> application on there. You can
access shares, USB sticks. Floppies are >>> just
a little slow, because you cannot change the
virtual floppy, so >>> you could repetitively
reboot the VM incrementally and copy
fragments >>> from incrementally created floppy
images. I chose to put a large app >>> and the
DP files onto an CD ISO image, using WinImage (I
think) as >>> the creator. >>> Then >>>
XCOPYâd (if you remembered to install it and
set the PATH so your dos >>> utilities), into a
new folder. You can use the internal COPY
command, >>> but my app had folders to contend
with so XCOPY is far less of a >>>
headache.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Fire up DP
and watch it fly. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>>
But, now the really difficult part starts. Its
one things to have DP >>> working on a Virtual
Machine island but to interact with the real >>>
world is more difficult. First you need to
install a network device >>> driver then TCP/IP
stack, and then an MS NET Client or similar
on >>> top. There are many of these. Then you
have to tweak it to access >>> shares (remember
that DOS will not connect to a share not in 8.3
name >>> format. Also the Host needs some
registry changes to allow the type >>> of
authentication that the early DOS network
clients used, and then >>> you need to set us
shares for the printers, and redirect LPT1, to
use >>> one of these shares. I got it working
some time ago, and I was >>> pleased with how it
worked, but it was way too much
work. **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> The Win98SE
alternatively works wonderfully, and you do not
have to >>> worry about Windows activation like
with later versions, so you can >>> keep
multiple versions of your appliance (remembering
of course >>> Microsoftâs licencing
arrangements J) printing works fine, I
imagine >>> things like DPSpool etc will also
work. Antiviruses are a problem >>> since there
are not too many now for Win 98, but if you only
ever use >>> it for DP then its probably not
much of a worry. By using a more >>>
lightweight Guest OS, there are few demands on
late model hardware so >>> you will probably see
Win98 work at speeds you never thought >>>
possible. Sharing files either direction etc is
also so much easier. >>> **** >>> >>> **
** >>> >>> If I ever have time, and thatâs
rare with two kids around the house, >>> and if
I can make a pre-made appliance which does not
breach >>> Microsoft licencing I will upload one
so anyone can use it.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>>
Bye**** >>> >>> Brian**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>>
** ** >>> >>> *From:*
[email protected] [mailto: >>>
[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
*Gerard van Loenhout >>> *Sent:* Saturday, 16
February 2013 7:31 AM >>> *To:* Jon Ong >>>
*Cc:* Dataperfect Users Discussion Group >>>
*Subject:* Re: [Dataperf] Screen size
win7/32**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Jon, I find
dosbox a bit too slow building up, especially
with data >>> from >>> links.**** >>> >>> And we
are 5 people using it on a network, that's why I
chose not to >>> use >>> dosbox.**** >>> >>> **
** >>> >>> But I guess a relaxed person like you
;-) would probably be okay with >>> dosbox. You
can always try it. It's free.**** >>> >>> **
** >>> >>> I know other people that are happy
with dosbox on Win7/64.**** >>> >>> **
** >>> >>> Gerard **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>>
2013/2/15 Jong <[email protected]>**** >>> >>>
Gerard, Geert & Tim:**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>>
Really nice to get continued support for our DP
dinosaur from the gang. >>>
**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I've considered
switching to Access or other databases but I
still >>> believe simple is better, especially
with complex data sets that I >>> deal with in a
medical practice.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>>
Full screen really only a concern for the
portable netbooks I have to >>> carry around at
work, I realize that's not too much of an issue
on >>> the big >>>
screen.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> From what
I've seen so far, someone (excuse me for
forgetting who it >>> was) >>> said win7/32 pro
allowed XP emulation with full screen so it
looks >>> like that's the easiest way to go for
me. **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> As for win7/64,
(which unfortunatley I have on one of my
laptops), it >>> looks like best solution is
creating a virtual PC using VMware and >>> then
WinXP -- lots of work
there.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>>
Jon**** >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>
*From:* Gerard van Loenhout
[mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:*
Friday, February 15, 2013 12:26 AM >>> *To:*
[email protected] >>> *Cc:* [email protected];
Dataperfect Users Discussion Group >>>
*Subject:* Re: [Dataperf] DOS in Win 7/64
questions**** >>> >>> Hi Jong! **** >>> >>> **
** >>> >>> I use DP Win7 / 32 Home. The window
is not bigger than the dosbox in >>> XP.** >>>
** >>> >>> I find it quite comfortable to work
with. **** >>> >>> With these big screens
nowadays I haven't actually tried >>>
fullscreen.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Geert
probably knows more.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>>
Gerard **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> 2013/2/14 Jong
<[email protected]>**** >>> >>> Geert &
everyone: >>> >>> Thanks for the latest info on
Dp in Win7/32, just a few clarifiers: >>> >>>
1. Do you have pro or home version Win7/32? >>>
2. Does DP run in full screen mode? >>> 3. How
do you print up your HTML output from DP? >>>
4. Is there a print spooler we can use similar
to DP Spool to make >>> printing
seamless? >>> >>> Jon**** >>> >>> >>>
-----Original Message----- >>> From:
[email protected] >>>
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of [email protected] >>> Sent: Thursday,
February 14, 2013 6:49 AM >>> To:
[email protected] >>> Subject: Re:
[Dataperf] DOS in Win 7/64 questions >>> >>> >>>
Hi all, >>> >>> I can only agree with Gerard : I
am running DP 'straight out of the box' >>>
without any problem on a Win7/32 system. NB: I
don't even use Tame ! >>> >>> All my reports are
saved into html-files, which solves all
possible >>> printing problems... >>> >>>
Regards, >>> Geert. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 13
Feb 2013 09:03:25 +0100, Gerard van Loenhout >>>
<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Don, I
was the one who started the most recent
discussion about Win7. >>>> DosBox is too slow.
I bought a couple of Win7/64 PCs at Dell. I >>>>
bought a CD from them with Win7/32 for the same
PCs so I had the >>>> right drivers. Now DP
works fine. >>>> 2013/2/12 Don Friedman
<[email protected]> >>>>> I know that
there has been discussion about this but I can't
seem >>>>> to find a way to search it out on the
main site. Is their a trick >>>>> to that? >>>>>
I've finally "grown up" and put a couple of
Win7/64 boxes in the >>> office. >>>>> I'm
assuming that I can run dosbox to run DP without
much trouble >>>>> - I never have a need to
print from DP and if I remember right >>>>> that
was part of the problem. Am I on the right track
here? I'm >>>>> assuming that it will >>>
still >>>>> be >>>>> faster to run DP via dosbox
on my newer machines than to run them >>>>>
on >>> my >>>>> older XP machine. >>>>>
Don >>>>> -- >>>>> *Don Friedman >>>>>
ProfessionalRecords.Com LLC >>>>> PRS Data
Systems >>>>> Liveport WiFi* >>>
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