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Don Friedman <[email protected]> wrote:
Michael - thats great to hear, that Lew is alive and well enough to join Pete for lunch. Our WP users group had Peterson here in Pittsburgh for an event many, many years ago. I've never forgiven him for his terrible (IMHO) handling of the promotion of WPCorp products. His belief was that advertising money and promotion had to reflect current income levels by product, not the push to promote products into new markets. So Draw and Quattro never got much traction and came out as second cousins to WordPerfect in every case. They were better products than their competitors at the time but lost market share for lack of trying. DP barely ever got a dollar. To this day I believe that DP should have been part of WP for integrated data handling for merges, etc.
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On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 3:43 AM, Michael Shadel <[email protected]> wrote:
I just read a book by Pete Peterson who worked at WordPerfect. I sent him a note about his book. In his reply he mentioned that he had lunch with Lew Bastian just two weeks ago.
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I am curious to find out if anyone has spoken to Lew lately.
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Patrick Riley <[email protected]> wrote:
I've commented on this topic in the past as I too wish for a 32-bit version of DataPerfect.
I believe DataPerfect is written in Forth and know numerous 32-bit Forth compilers and/or interpreters exist including a Win32 Forth. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forth_%28programming_language%29
A Windows version of DataPerfect would be great but I'd be happy with a 32-bit version that would run natively in current 64-bit versions of Windows; operating in a DOS window would be a minor issue compared to setting up virtual machines.
I may have missed it but I've never seen Lew comment on this direction and would love to know his feasibility assessment of this direction.
Thanks,
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At 04:18 AM 8/14/2015, MEIRTE Danny wrote:
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Sorry to hear that you consider a compiler 'swap' a dead end.
I hoped to solve the 64-bit problem as I did with all the helper programs I wrote in QuickBasic (yes the compiler written by Bill Gates himself).
Using QB64 I could compile everything in 32-bit so they should work also in the 64-bit environment. With some minor changes in the source code e.g. replace "END" by "SYSTEM".
I suppose that the programs generated just run in a DOS-window, but do not start as 16bit DOS programs.
They need separate DLL files (to be stored in the same directory or in a common windows directory) see http://www.qb64.net/wiki/index.php/QB64_FAQ#Q:_What_files_are_required_to_run_QB64_SDL_programs_in_Windows.3F
Probably this is the only way to reuse the former source code, where some DOS functions are transferred to the DLL's...
Might be a hint for those who want to save DP...
Maybe someone can find a way to 'adapt' the source code of DP for a 32-bit compiler.
But as long as the code of DP is not open source, this is really a dead end...
Lew was once thinking about a Win-version of DP, 'DPWin'...
Danny
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Subject: [Dataperf] Dataperfect and Windows 64bit Win7
I saw the message of MEIRTE Danny about DP 32 bit.
DP sources are targeted to produce a DOS program, calling DOS functions!
Windows 64 bit simply doesn’t facilitate DOS programs, only Windows 32 or
64 bit programs.
DOS programs always start off as 16-bit.
With MUCH programming effort, one could modify the source code and link in a DOS extender. Switching to 32 bit mode, when needed, and enable DP to access memory beyond the DOS 1MB limit. So frequently freeing up memory by swapping to disk isn’t needed anymore.
It would surely speed up DP processing when it runs out of DOS memory. But DP would still be a 16 bit, with 32 bit extensions, DOS program, not able to run in Windows 64 bit!
This is a dead end. If the source code would be available, the only practical approach would be to add XMS memory management to DP and let it swap to that.
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