Thank you, Matt. Interesting to see that not only does DP allow non-programmers to create useful applications, but in your case it has even given you the confidence to become a programmer. Now applications are built using a "stack" of products, one for the database tables, another for the "middleware", yet another for the user interface, etc. Meaning not just one programming language to learn, but many. DP had the genius to do it all, with next to no programming. Glad to hear that you have gotten so much mileage out of it, and that you are able to move your application onto the new platforms. Best wishes, Bruce
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Matt Dwyer, PE <[email protected]> wrote: > I still use dP and we have a database that has worked for us for nearly 2 > decades, and has maybe 90 panels. > > In the past year, I have started using SQL and Visual Basic clickonce > apps, and ASP, and find them breathtaking in capability and speed. Absurdly > fast, super powerful, ties to other software, ties to the web - it is all > just incredible. Painful to learn for an old man, but there are many > sources of info and examples, such as stackoverflow.com So, not easy, > but stunning, especially given that SQL Express and Visual Studio 2015 > Community are free. Windows server needed, of course, and windows > workstations etc, but I already had that. Not trying to be a troll here - > I understand the desire to move dp into modern operating systems, but for > me, I only wish I had started the conversion process to sql and clickonce > apps a few years ago. > > Everyone has different needs of course, so fwiw... > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Don Friedman <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Bruce - excellent stuff. I remain truly surprised that the need for >> simple database application generators never really took hold. It seemed to >> me that Q&A had a smart idea, a word processor with a database that could >> easily create data-driven reports and correspondence. There were a handful >> of other of these products out there and I suspect that at one time Lew >> thought DP would be a part of DataPerfect per se. It's not that DP failed >> on it's own to capture a market, the entire product category failed to >> capture a market. Do you think a web-based application development tool >> could do much better? >> >> >> >> >> *Don FriedmanProfessionalRecords.Com LLCPRS Data Systems* >> >> >> >> *205 S Main StreetPittsburgh, PA 15215412-784-1600 <412-784-1600> - >> 1-800-PRS-FILE 412-784-1615 <412-784-1615> Fax* >> >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Bruce Conrad <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Our recent discussion about running DP on modern machines has set me >>> thinking (again--over the years I have thought about this often). >>> >>> It is wonderful that we can still run DP and I am grateful to those who >>> have made it possible through virtual machines. >>> >>> If anyone can think of an easy way to "port" DP to a more modern >>> machine, I would love to be involved. Every idea that has occurred to me >>> for doing this has so far turned out to be too difficult. Each time I have >>> thought of how to automatically migrate existing DP applications to the >>> more modern system. >>> >>> A modern DP would probably not be simply a "windows" version, but rather >>> a rapid application development system for data-based browser applications. >>> With over a decade of experience building web applications--in languages >>> such as Perl, C, bash, Java, and JSP--I know how challenging this can be, >>> and how definitely requiring skill as a programmer. >>> >>> For the first time, last week, I thought about the reverse process. That >>> is, given a web application, what would it look like as a DP application. A >>> couple of thoughts about this can be found at >>> http://sanbachs.net/ha-then-now/index20150821.html and >>> http://sanbachs.net/ha-then-now/ both based on (part of) a real web >>> application. >>> >>> I just finished a brief nostalgic post about my experiences with >>> DataPerfect, which includes a brief list of its features. If I have left >>> out anything you particularly appreciate about DP, please comment about >>> them. The post is at >>> http://conwithoutcon.blogspot.com/2015/08/continuation-without-compulsion.html >>> >>> Many thanks and best wishes, >>> Bruce >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dataperf mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.dataperfect.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dataperf >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dataperf mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.dataperfect.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dataperf >> >> >
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