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Subject: RE: [Dataperf] towards a modern DP - Random thoughts
From: <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, August 27, 2015 3:09 pm
To: "Don Friedman" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]

Some time ago, people made a Java product that could read DP.  This was a huge step toward porting DP into a modern environment.

There still is a need for much of what DP offers, especially in the realm of phones.    Phone apps need lightweight implimentation, easy graphics.

Were I to comment on DP architecture I would posit the following:

1.  Printing could be broken out into a separate application.
2.  One of the big weaknessess of DP is what I would call conditional presentation.   Much of this was solved inelegantly via DPMate.  But one needs to control what fields appear on table, as well as access.   
3.  Periodically I keep threatening to post up the DP developers guide.  I was one of 5 people that purchased this from WordPerfect, as I recall for $2000.   Last I checked I still have it -but getting motivated to dig through thousands of boxes is.. daunting.

DataPerfect needs better html integration - something a la cold fusion of long ago fame.
It needs easy integration into one of the two standard webserves, either apache or MicroSoft.

It needs a way to better separate what appears on screen and what is merely in the table.

Fun times, tho to be sure

Chris 



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Subject: Re: [Dataperf] towards a modern DP
From: Don Friedman <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, August 26, 2015 12:05 pm
To: Bruce Conrad <[email protected]>
Cc: DataPerfect Users Discussion Group <[email protected]>

Bruce - excellent stuff. I remain truly surprised that the need for simple database application generators never really took hold. It seemed to me that Q&A had a smart idea, a word processor with a database that could easily create data-driven reports and correspondence. There were a handful of other of these products out there and I suspect that at one time Lew thought DP would be a part of DataPerfect per se. It's not that DP failed on it's own to capture a market, the entire product category failed to capture a market. Do you think a web-based application development tool could do much better?

Don Friedman
ProfessionalRecords.Com LLC
PRS Data Systems
205 S Main Street
Pittsburgh, PA   15215
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On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Bruce Conrad <[email protected]> wrote:
Our recent discussion about running DP on modern machines has set me thinking (again--over the years I have thought about this often).

It is wonderful that we can still run DP and I am grateful to those who have made it possible through virtual machines.

If anyone can think of an easy way to "port" DP to a more modern machine, I would love to be involved. Every idea that has occurred to me for doing this has so far turned out to be too difficult. Each time I have thought of how to automatically migrate existing DP applications to the more modern system.

A modern DP would probably not be simply a "windows" version, but rather a rapid application development system for data-based browser applications. With over a decade of experience building web applications--in languages such as Perl, C, bash, Java, and JSP--I know how challenging this can be, and how definitely requiring skill as a programmer.

For the first time, last week, I thought about the reverse process. That is, given a web application, what would it look like as a DP application. A couple of thoughts about this can be found at http://sanbachs.net/ha-then-now/index20150821.html and http://sanbachs.net/ha-then-now/ both based on (part of) a real web application.

I just finished a brief nostalgic post about my experiences with DataPerfect, which includes a brief list of its features. If I have left out anything you particularly appreciate about DP, please comment about them. The post is at http://conwithoutcon.blogspot.com/2015/08/continuation-without-compulsion.html

Many thanks and best wishes,
Bruce


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