On 31/08/2015 01:39, [email protected] wrote:
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Subject: RE: [Dataperf] towards a modern DP - Random thoughts
From: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thu, August 27, 2015 3:09 pm
To: "Don Friedman" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: [email protected]
Some time ago, people made a Java product that could read DP.
This was a huge step toward porting DP into a modern environment.
Very good work, any chance to share it ?
There still is a need for much of what DP offers, especially in
the realm of phones. Phone apps need lightweight
implimentation, easy graphics.
Were I to comment on DP architecture I would posit the following:
1. Printing could be broken out into a separate application.
2. One of the big weaknessess of DP is what I would call
conditional presentation. Much of this was solved inelegantly
via DPMate. But one needs to control what fields appear on table,
as well as access.
3. Periodically I keep threatening to post up the DP developers
guide. I was one of 5 people that purchased this from
WordPerfect, as I recall for $2000. Last I checked I still have
it -but getting motivated to dig through thousands of boxes is..
daunting.
uauh man, that's a historic document, we need to share this with
... the world. If need some help pls send to me that I made it
available. If you need some motivation to find it pls send me your home
address in pvt that I'll send you some...
DataPerfect needs better html integration - something a la cold
fusion of long ago fame.
It needs easy integration into one of the two standard webserves,
either apache or MicroSoft.
It needs a way to better separate what appears on screen and what
is merely in the table.
Fun times, tho to be sure
Chris
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Subject: Re: [Dataperf] towards a modern DP
From: Don Friedman <[email protected]
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Date: Wed, August 26, 2015 12:05 pm
To: Bruce Conrad <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: DataPerfect Users Discussion Group
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Bruce - excellent stuff. I remain truly surprised that the
need for simple database application generators never really
took hold. It seemed to me that Q&A had a smart idea, a word
processor with a database that could easily create data-driven
reports and correspondence. There were a handful of other of
these products out there and I suspect that at one time Lew
thought DP would be a part of DataPerfect per se. It's not
that DP failed on it's own to capture a market, the entire
product category failed to capture a market. Do you think a
web-based application development tool could do much better?
*Don Friedman
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PRS Data Systems
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On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Bruce Conrad
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Our recent discussion about running DP on modern machines
has set me thinking (again--over the years I have thought
about this often).
It is wonderful that we can still run DP and I am grateful
to those who have made it possible through virtual machines.
If anyone can think of an easy way to "port" DP to a more
modern machine, I would love to be involved. Every idea
that has occurred to me for doing this has so far turned
out to be too difficult. Each time I have thought of how
to automatically migrate existing DP applications to the
more modern system.
A modern DP would probably not be simply a "windows"
version, but rather a rapid application development system
for data-based browser applications. With over a decade of
experience building web applications--in languages such as
Perl, C, bash, Java, and JSP--I know how challenging this
can be, and how definitely requiring skill as a programmer.
For the first time, last week, I thought about the reverse
process. That is, given a web application, what would it
look like as a DP application. A couple of thoughts about
this can be found at
http://sanbachs.net/ha-then-now/index20150821.html and
http://sanbachs.net/ha-then-now/ both based on (part of) a
real web application.
I just finished a brief nostalgic post about my
experiences with DataPerfect, which includes a brief list
of its features. If I have left out anything you
particularly appreciate about DP, please comment about
them. The post is at
http://conwithoutcon.blogspot.com/2015/08/continuation-without-compulsion.html
Many thanks and best wishes,
Bruce
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