Hi Chris, I can believe it. I've been getting on well with DP, and the speed with which I can take a design idea and implement it is pretty much unmatched. I've added new features while sitting in waiting rooms, and done bug fixes while sitting in a doctor's office. For anybody that's comfortable with relational data, and can work within DP's limitations (which are actually pretty darned permissive for a "non-programmable" database platform), you can get a heck of a lot done without a lot of ceremonial coding. Occasionally you might have to ponder the right set of tricks (e.g. links, keep-a-total, cascades, calculated fields) needed to accomplish a task, but the implementation is usually really quick once you know the proper approach.
I've been tinkering with creating a vehicle maintenance log database here and there; that'll probably be the next one I add to my tool belt when I feel an afternoon of database development coming on. I could really use a quick way to see last and next service dates for our cars. -Dave Britten > On Jan 11, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Chris Pedersen <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Dave.. At 53... (sigh) I'm even younger than the last speaker. > > I read your journal - and wanted to chime in with a little trip down memory > lane. At one point there were database competitions. Who could create a > database to model data; who could do it fastest, and fulfil a variety of > design criteria. DP had been out of print for 10 years at that point. > > Nonetheless with a field of a few dozen competitors DP took third. And > would have taken first if it had the ability to handle pictures/aka blobs. > > Chris > > > > From: Dataperf <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Britten > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 3:29 PM > To: Fabio Muller > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Dataperf] Greetings from a new inductee > > Hi Fabio, > > It's funny, as a DBA/programmer, I have no interest in modern "mobile" > development for my own needs. I don't want to spend dozens/hundreds of hours > agonizing over UI and data binding code, I just want to speak in the language > of data modeling, with a rapid UI builder that will get me to the 80-90% > mark. For my own personal use, I don't need the flash and fluff, just an > application that's quick and efficient to use. (I don't think that mentality > is exclusive to the IT profession; our house was previously owned by the > builder, and I've uncovered some... interesting shortcuts and conveniences > throughout over the years.) > > The report writer is definitely quite impressive, and refreshingly easy to > use. I haven't delved too deeply yet, but for a "nonprogrammable" database, > it sure is awfully programmable! And it's all based on the same banded report > paradigms I'm used to from SQL Server Reporting Services or Access. I still > think I'll be better off using SQL Server for more exotic querying purposes - > outer/anti-joins, non-equijoins, pivots, other "fuzzy" correlations and data > mining - but DP's report writer seems like it will be plenty for any use > cases that I would actually want to tackle on a handheld 80186. I'm hoping I > can find a nice pocket-sized serial-to-parallel adapter to print straight > from my HP palmtop, without having to strap some shift registers to an > Arduino Pro Mini and do it myself. > > -Dave Britten > > On Dec 18, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Fabio Muller <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Guys, got a busy year this year due to our local city election ( Don >> knows what it looks like !) But I'm always reading everything posted here. >> Dave I'm very glad that you find DP and I'm sure you'll be in loving with it >> very soon. I'm not a DBA but have some programming background, and I never >> found something so fast, quick and dirty like DP. Today people spent tons of >> hours with windows make-up ( buttons,colours,flowers, fluff's and etc..) >> and data which is the goal, nothing. I read you post and congratulations you >> already get the spirit, or better, you already know how to do it. There is >> just one thing that I suspect you would have to adjust in a near future : >> "(..) its report writer isn't nearly as powerful as writing an SQL query in >> a modern database.." After you go deeper and master formulas you probably >> will have to add a p.s. to your post! . >> Talking about DP guys , I remember and found on dateperfect.nl (in wayback >> machine) an advise about "the Huntington Beach DP Conference Video's" and >> that Colin Roberts had the full 8 dvd's set. Colin, do you still have this >> set somewhere ? I'm interested in put this online if everybody is d'accord. >> Merry Christmas to you all guys and a happy new year in 2017 ( as John >> Olivier says "Fu..you 2016!" ) >> >> >>> On 12/15/2016 10:12 AM, Dave Britten wrote: >>> Howdy all, >>> >>> I just recently started using DataPerfect for some assorted personal >>> information management (chiefly medical history), and thought that a >>> write-up of why a 34-year-old DBA/programmer would opt for a database >>> development platform that's nearly as old as he is might make for some >>> interesting light reading. >>> >>> http://dave.brittens.org/blog/new-nail-30-year-old-hammer.html >>> >>> Note that my site is 100% non-commercial in nature. It's just a little >>> hobby blog running on my Raspberry Pi (Pelican works great for that >>> purpose). >>> >>> I'll try not to annoy everybody with too many beginner questions on account >>> of being a couple decades behind the curve here. :) >>> >>> -Dave Britten >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dataperf mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.dataperfect.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dataperf >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Dataperf mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.dataperfect.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dataperf
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