Hi Dennis,

I didn't see your post before I sent my latest reply.

Nice detective work!

For what it's worth, from what I understand your
"punchline"/kewpie-prize solution is so much faster because it avoids
building the .SD data.table within each group.

I'll let Matthew leave a more detailed comment, since he's (obviously)
much more intimately familiar w/ the inner voodoo of data.table. But
as a last comment -- if the speed differences are so drastic because
of the cost of creating the .SD data.table, maybe we should think
about taking some "inspiration" from plyr and define a similar
`colwise` function -- which would operate across each "column" of
supposedly-build .SD object applying a function to each of them w/o
actually building an .SD object itself.

-steve

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Dennis Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> <A bunch snipped because I get the archives in digest form>
>
> Re Prof. Voelkel's recent posts:
>
> (1) Quoting does not work well in data.table; this is mentioned in
> several of the FAQs. Apropos to this discussion, some of the relevant
> ones include 1.2, 1.6 and 2.1; there may be others :)
>
> (2) Steve's response seems to be the right way to go (although see
> below), but I thought I'd up the stakes a little and assume that Prof.
> Voelkel has a large number of variables, only a subset of which he may
> want summarized in a particular go. To that end, I created the
> following toy data frame cum data.table; this is as much for my own
> edification as anyone else's (which explains the eventual length of
> this post...I got curious :)
>
> This goes against the advice given in the first example of the
> data.table wiki, but if you have, say, 100 variables to select out of
> a possible 1000, it doesn't make sense to list them individually as
> recommended on the wiki. (But see below...)
>
> library('data.table')
> set.seed(1043)
> m <- matrix(rpois(240, 10), nrow = 6)
> colnames(m) <- paste('A', 1:40, sep = '')
> m <- as.data.frame(m)
> dt2 <- data.table(x = rep(1:3, 2), y = rep(1:3, each = 2), m, key = 'x')
> dim(dt2)
> # [1]  6 42       ...so far, so good
>
> # Subset of variables for which sums are desired
> vars <- paste('A', c(1, 4, 10, 15, 31), sep = '')
>
> # One approach: use the select = argument of subset() to restrict
> # the variables under consideration:
> dt2[, lapply(subset(.SD, select = vars), sum), by = 'x']
>     x A1 A4 A10 A15 A31
> [1,] 1 18 21  22  22  24
> [2,] 2 20 13 27 23 21
> [3,] 3 22 15  16  23  15
>
> # Use the with = FALSE construct of data.table to do the same:
> dt2[, lapply(.SD[, vars, with = FALSE], sum), by = 'x, y']
>     x y A1 A4 A10 A15 A31
> [1,] 1 1 11 13  12  11  16
> [2,] 1 2  7  8  10  11   8
> [3,] 2 1 10  4  16   7  11
> [4,] 2 3 10 9 11 16 10
> [5,] 3 2 11  8   7  11   7
> [6,] 3 3 11  7   9  12   8
>
> # For this example, it is the same (apart from the key variables) as
> dt2[, vars, with = FALSE]
>
> Not bad for this small example, but what happens in a much larger data table?
>
> To find out, I created a 10000 x 1000 matrix that I converted into a
> data table, added two grouping variables of 100 levels each and then
> tried both approaches above again. Performance isn't bad when
> summarizing over one variable, but there is a definite hit when two
> variables are summarized. [It makes some sense since one is grouping
> over 10000 level combinations rather than 100, but once again, keep
> reading.] Curiously, it makes no difference if there is one key
> variable or two, which made me wonder what the preferred approach is
> in this circumstance.
>
> m <- matrix(rpois(10000000, 10), nrow = 10000)
> m <- as.data.table(m)
> m <- transform(m, x = rep(1:100, each = 100), y = rep(1:100, 100))
> setkey(m, 'x')
> dim(m)
> # [1] 10000  1002
>
> # Randomly select 150 variables from the 1000
> vars <- paste('A', sample(1:1000, 150, replace = FALSE), sep = '')
> length(vars)
> # [1] 150
> key(m)
> # [1] "x"
>> system.time(m[, lapply(subset(.SD, select = vars), sum), by = 'x'])
>   user  system elapsed
>   0.75    0.00    0.75
>> system.time(m[, lapply(.SD[, vars, with = FALSE], sum), by = 'x'])
>   user  system elapsed
>   0.64    0.00    0.64
>> system.time(m[, lapply(subset(.SD, select = vars), sum), by = 'x, y'])
>   user  system elapsed
>  53.65    0.00   53.85
>> system.time(m[, lapply(.SD[, vars, with = FALSE], sum), by = 'x, y'])
>   user  system elapsed
>  44.21    0.01   44.35
>
> m2 <- data.table(m, key = 'x, y')
> rm(m)
> key(m2)
> # [1] "x" "y"
>> system.time(m2[, lapply(subset(.SD, select = vars), sum), by = 'x, y'])
>   user  system elapsed
>  53.54    0.00   53.73
>> system.time(m2[, lapply(.SD[, vars, with = FALSE], sum), by = 'x, y'])
>   user  system elapsed
>  44.30    0.04   44.60
>
> The first question in the wiki
> (http://rwiki.sciviews.org/doku.php?id=packages:cran:data.table) says
> to use the columns directly rather than to rely on .SD. I wanted to
> know how to pass new names to the summaries instead of overwriting the
> original variable names. For the fun of it, I tried the following:
>
> select <- sample(1:1000, 150, replace = FALSE)
> vars <- paste('A', select, sep = '')
> outvars <- paste('S', select, sep = '')
>
> # Create a long expression of the form 'list(..., Sn = sum(An), ...)',
> # n a subscript from 1 to 150.
> expr <- paste('list(', paste(outvars, paste('sum(', vars, ')', sep =
> ''), sep = '=', collapse = ','),
>               ')', sep = '')
> u <- m2[, eval(parse(text = expr)), by = 'x']
>> dim(u)
> # [1] 100 151     seems reasonable...
>
> This seemed to run rather fast, so I decided to time it:
>
>> system.time(m2[, eval(parse(text = expr)), by = 'x'])
>   user  system elapsed
>   0.03    0.00    0.03
>> system.time(m2[, eval(parse(text = expr)), by = 'x, y'])
>   user  system elapsed
>   1.05    0.00    1.04
>
> I've got to admit, this is not the approach I would have taken
> normally, is certainly not intuitively obvious to me and flouts the
> usual advice to avoid the eval(parse(text = )) mantra, but the data
> don't lie :)  Please tell me there's a more code-efficient way to do
> this (the new variable names included), because my 'solution' was a
> complete kludge and accidental kewpie prize.
>
> Cheers,
> Dennis
>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:36:11 -0400
>> From: Joseph Voelkel <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [datatable-help] Skipping some Vi names
>> To: "[email protected]"
>>        <[email protected]>
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>>        <[email protected]>
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>>
>> I don't use data.table too much (though I probably should use it more...).
>>
>> I was surprised at the results below. It appears that the name V1 gets 
>> assigned to the first result, but then the keys ("in the background") are 
>> assigned the next set of Vi names, creating a gap in the names depending on 
>> the number of keys. I would like to see the Vi names appear in their 
>> natural, sequential, order. Not a show stopper, but it's annoying. (I have 
>> over 40 Vi's and it'd be good to have them numbered more rationally.) Thanks.
>>
>>> dt<-data.table(x=c(1,2,3,1,2,3),y=c(1,1,2,2,3,3),A1=1:6,A2=7:12,A3=13:18,key="x")
>>> dt[,list("sum(A1),sum(A2),sum(A3)"),by="x"]
>>     x V1 V3 V4
>> [1,] 1  5 17 29
>> [2,] 2  7 19 31
>> [3,] 3  9 21 33
>>> key(dt)<-c("x","y")
>>> dt[,list("sum(A1),sum(A2),sum(A3)"),by="x,y"]
>>     x y V1 V4 V5
>> [1,] 1 1  1  7 13
>> [2,] 1 2  4 10 16
>> [3,] 2 1  2  8 14
>> [4,] 2 3  5 11 17
>> [5,] 3 2  3  9 15
>> [6,] 3 3  6 12 18
>>
>>
>>
>> Joseph G. Voelkel, Ph.D.
>> Professor, Center for Quality and Applied Statistics
>> Kate Gleason College of Engineering
>> Rochester Institute of Technology
>> V 585-475-2231
>> F 585-475-5959
>> [email protected]
>>
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