> On Aug 25, 2015, at 9:20 PM, Akira Li <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The code [4] can't be fixed without data from the tz database.

.. or a working tm_zone/tm_gmtoff extension. Ok, I'll give you that even 
thought I thought we had some good enough work-around at least for the offset 
part. 

What does this all have to do with PEP 495?  If you are just saying that  it 
does not solve all problems related to dealing with time zones in Python - I 
will be first to agree with you.  It solves only one problem: it enables tzinfo 
providers to achieve lossless conversion between time zones with varying 
utcoffset.  That's all. 

If you are saying that PEP 495 is not needed if all your time zones have fixed 
utcoffset - again no disagreement here. 

If you say that lossless conversion between varying utcoffset timezones should 
not be supported at all - I think you will find yourself in a small minority. 
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