Carsten Haese wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 16:46 -0500, Carl Karsten wrote:
>> I have been following this on and off.  I don't have much to add to the 
>> specific
>> problem, but I do have some general thoughts that may help.
>>
>> I.
>> It seems to be a similar (not same, and even similar may be a stretch) 
>> problem
>> to the parameter formating problem 'solved' by .paramstyle which is one of 
>> the
>> worst solutions I have seen to any problem :)    to me, the parameter problem
>> should be solved "in" the db-api layer, not above it (assuming application is
>> above database.)   Again, I agree that the type problem is not the same as
>> parameter, so it may need a different solution that will have similarities to
>> what I dislike about .paramstyle.
> 
> I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. paramstyle fulfills its
> function of giving the API implementor enough freedom to get the job
> done and letting the application developer know which option the
> implementor chose. Now, IMHO format and pyformat paramstyles are an
> abomination that should disappear from future versions of DB-API, and
> qmark should be the mandatory minimum, but I digress.

to me it gave the API implementor too much freedom for no good reason, other 
than make it easier by making it the application developers problem.  I don't 
see why one format couldn't have been chosen and all API implementors could 
work 
with it, just like all application developers now have to work with it.

> 
> My outputmap/inputmap proposal is built with flexibility in mind. Maybe
> that's what's bothering you, I don't know.
> 
>> II. (going out on a limb here...)
>> A user defined data type is used (therefor defined) by the application, so it
>> makes perfect sense that the app layer would have implementation details.  If
>> the person defining the datatype wants to use it across applications, then 
>> they
>> will code an appropriate class.   I can't see how a user defined anything 
>> can be
>> handled generically.
> 
> Of course. Informix Dynamic Server allows user-defined types, which is
> precisely why my outputmap/inputmap mechanism is flexible enough to
> handle a lot of different use case scenarios. But it also provides a
> foundation for handling common use cases with standard typemaps that
> have database-independent names and agreed-upon semantics. 

That sounds in line with my thoughts.

Carl K
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