HI Shane On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 09:52, Shane Kerr via db-wg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ronald, > > On 03/12/2020 22.57, Ronald F. Guilmette via db-wg wrote: > > > > Let's cut to the chase here. I'll start the ball rolling, and Denis can > > support or not support the following propoal as he sees fit... > > > > Be it proposed that starting from January 1, 2021, public access > > to the RIPE WHOIS data base shall be terminated, and after that > > date only RIPE NCC staff members shall have access to any information > > contained within the RIPE data base. > > > > Alternatively, starting from January 1, 2021, public access to the > > RIPE WHOIS data base shall be terminated, but the data will still > > be available, with all names of companies and individuals being > > redacted, only to dues-paying RIPE members. > > > > The above proposals are maximally consistant with both GDPR and also with > > the twin overriding goals of privacy and security. > > > > Can I get a second for my proposal? > > One missing bit of this proposal is organizations who *want* their > network information visible to other network operators. Back when we > used phone books there were people who wanted their name and phone > number published... sometimes including their physical address... and > some people who did not. So I would not be terribly sad with the 2nd > version if allowed an opt-in clause. > > Also, the RIPE PDP (Policy Development Process) does not allow for such > a quick timeframe, so best to leave the date off at least until the RIPE > NCC has completed their feasibility assessment. > > So maybe a version which looks like this: > > By default, the RIPE Whois Database will only return whether number > resources are allocated or not in the public view. RIPE NCC members may > opt to publish additional information in the public view of the > database. RIPE NCC members will also be able to access contact > information and other meta-data (such as date of allocation) of other > members in a private view of the database. >
This circumvents the (accepted) purpose of the RIPE Database as a 'public registry' of who is responsible for Internet resources...even though this is not listed as one of the purposes. (Maybe the TF should add this as a purpose...) cheers denis co-chair DB-WG > Cheers, > > -- > Shane >
