Hi Ed,

I might be misunderstanding but mnt-ref on mntners sounds like a catch 22.

If mnt-ref would only be needed for mnt-by and any other references to
mntners except mnt-ref I suppose it would be fine.

But generally speaking here I think I support it for the object types
excluding mntners but only if no mnt-ref attribute means that anyone can
reference it. (the way it is today)

This would mean that it's an opt-in functionality that requires adding at
least one mnt-ref attribute to the object.

I think the impact would be too big and uncertain otherwise.

-Cynthia

On Mon, Mar 28, 2022, 09:30 Edward Shryane via db-wg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Currently the "mnt-ref:" attribute only protects references to
> organisation objects in the RIPE database, by specifying which
> maintainer(s) can authorise the reference.
>
> This means it is possible to make references to other object types without
> any authorisation, for example:
>
> * Refer to another organisation's maintainer
> * Refer to another organisation's abuse-c contact
> * Refer to any technical contact, admin contact, zone contact
>
> Since these references do not need authorisation, it is open to misuse,
> creating the impression that an unrelated party is responsible for that
> object.
>
> I propose that the "mnt-ref:" attribute be added (as an optional
> attribute) to other object types to allow references to be authorised:
>
> * person
> * role
> * mntner
> * irt
>
> This proposal does not eliminate misuse (e.g. contact information can
> still be copied into a separate object), but protects references to
> existing objects.
>
> If the DB-WG agrees to this proposal, I will prepare a more detailed
> impact analysis for review.
>
> Regards
> Ed Shryane
> RIPE NCC
>
>
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