Hi, On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 04:50:57PM +0200, Cynthia Revström wrote: > P.S. Yes all of these networks could just use role objects and as such > not have to publish phone numbers but I argued for why they shouldn't > be required as it seemed to me like Gert didn't quite understand why I > think it is a bad idea to require them, beyond the inconsistency.
Maybe I expressed myself badly. I was primarily describing my use
case "why would I want to look at *anything* in the RIPE-DB" - and
that is, usually, because something is broken and I find myself in
the need to contact people. In that situation, their network might
be broken (or mine, or something in between) so e-mail or a web
form might just not work - this is why we have a phone system.
If nothing is broken, I do not look at person or role objects at all.
That said, of course having "no phone number" is a better data set
than "a phone number that looks good to the DB but is useless" :-)
*That* said - if people do not want to be contacted about issues with
their network, then we should ask ourselves if putting these contacts
into the RIPE-DB is the correct thing to do - phone numbers or not -
to me this is the prime reason we store contact data there, to reach
responsible persons/teams when there is something with their network
that needs attention.
On this particular discussion: I agree that it makes no sense to have
the phone number optional on a role: (*this* is usually a NOC that has
a phone...) and mandatory on a person: - make it optional on both.
Gert Doering
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