Hi

On Wed, 25 May 2022 at 17:07, Gert Doering <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> *That* said - if people do not want to be contacted about issues with
> their network, then we should ask ourselves if putting these contacts
> into the RIPE-DB is the correct thing to do - phone numbers or not -
> to me this is the prime reason we store contact data there, to reach
> responsible persons/teams when there is something with their network
> that needs attention.
>

It may be that a network operator simply doesn't have the capability
to operate a tech support desk 24/7. That doesn't mean they don't want
to be contacted or that they don't want to know there is a problem. If
you detect an issue at 8pm, they are not available to fix it this
evening so no point listing a phone number. If you send them an email
they can look into the issue tomorrow. So there is still value in
listing their (email) contact details in the database.

>
> On this particular discussion: I agree that it makes no sense to have
> the phone number optional on a role: (*this* is usually a NOC that has
> a phone...) and mandatory on a person: - make it optional on both.

For now yes I agree to make it optional in both. In the long term we
need to get rid of the PERSON object then we won't have discrepancies

cheers
denis
proposal author.

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