{no discredit, intent, inside!}
Dear RIPE DB-WG, Denis,
Comments below, inline, please...
Thanks.
Le vendredi 21 juillet 2023, denis walker <[email protected]> a écrit :
> Hi Sylvain
>
> You seem to think there is some issue here of going against some consensus
> or being disruptive.
>
Thanks for your reply, brother.
...you seem to have misunderstood, my point :-/
Look! as a Co-chairs, *i* think you should not say
any thing like:
<quote>
I will now go back to my previous way of
working where, as a co-chair, I do have an agenda - to get things
done, for the good of the internet. Whether you consider that a
'personal' or 'professional' or 'DB' agenda is up to you.
</quote>
Why? simply because there is a better way to act;
as Co-chair...at least, you would have verified if any
rule, backed by the WG consensus, allows you to behave differently...and
if not, then consult the WG,
at worse, in order to *get your* consensus prior to
any personal varying decision, beside of the agreed
practices...but the best practice is to bind to your
tasks. If you don't like such *inertia*; then remove
your hat and contribute as you want. That's the actual long rough
consensus, i think we behave
upon. But, i may be wrong :-/
Hope my thought is clearer, now :-/
...and that strong personal opinion, would change
nothing on my perception of your, imho valuable, engagement within the
whole RIPE's community.
>
> This is not the case. The simple fact
> is, with so many topics on this mailing list, there is NO discussion.
> If there is NO discussion there can be NO consensus. That is the basis
> of this old fashioned, tried and tested, well documented, not to be
> deviated from process...that often completely fails. I have always
> made it clear that, even as a co-chair, I will express my own opinions
> in order to drive discussion so that a consensus is possible. The
> other chairs (previously the other chair) will determine consensus. In
> many cases that is the only way to get anything done. If anyone has
> any ideas how we can get the community involvement on many database
> issues up to 5 or more people in a discussion (which would be an
> amazing achievement) I would be very interested to hear your thoughts.
>
...feel free to start here [1,2], brother ;-)
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[1]: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/db-wg/2023-July/007857.html>
[2]: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/db-wg/2023-July/007882.html>
...and if you still need more, after; then let me know.
Shalom,
--sb.
>
> cheers
> denis
> co-chair DB-WG
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 at 00:19, Sylvain Baya <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > {change the topic. focus: basic tasks}
> > [...]
> >
>
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