On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 17:03, denis walker via db-wg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Gert > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 at 16:05, Gert Doering <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 03:55:26PM +0100, denis walker via db-wg wrote: > > > This new anti-spam measure is a convenient point to reflect on how one > > > part of the RIPE Database is used. Notifications are just one part of > > > an audit system. Many other parts are missing. To be sending out 30k > > > emails a day to hundreds of thousands of email addresses stored in a > > > public database as part of an incomplete audit system has to stop. > > > Notification emails on this scale are a relic of the past. > > > > Just as a counterpoint, I do like my notification e-mails. Push > > notification in case I do need to care, and *only then*. > > > > And I totally dislike having to actually look into some sort of > > portal / web UI "is there anything I should be aware of?", because > > this sort of polling is eating brain cycles for no good. > > But looking through lots of email notifications about changes that you > already know about, because you did them, and maybe in the middle is a > notification of an attempted security breach that failed on > authentication (that you may miss), doesn't that also eat up brain > cycles? > > So how about a compromise. A full audit trail of all details of all > changes to all your data available by default to designated people > through your portal account. Plus a daily email summarising all the > changes also sent to people whose email addresses are set up in the > portal account. So still no notif email addresses needed all across > the database. This could even be done per maintainer. > and of course this would be optional to reduce emails sent. > > cheers > denis > co-chair DB-WG > > ======================================================== > DISCLAIMER > Everything I said above is my personal, professional opinion. It is > what I believe to be honest and true to the best of my knowledge. No > one in this industry pays me anything. I have nothing to gain or lose > by any decision. I push for what I believe is for the good of the > Internet, in some small way. Nothing I say is ever intended to be > offensive or a personal attack. Even if I strongly disagree with you > or question your motives. Politicians question each other's motives > all the time. RIPE discussion is often as much about politics and self > interest as it is technical. I have a style of writing that some may > not be familiar with, others sometimes use it against me. I also have > OCD. It makes me see the world slightly differently to others. It > drives my mind's obsessive need for detail. I can not change the way I > express my detailed opinions. People may choose how to interpret them. > ======================================================== > > > > > > (Having a good audit trail is fine, in case I know I'm looking for > > something - but I do just want to see "something under my administration > > has changed", in case I do not yet know I should be looking) > > > > Gert Doering > > -- NetMaster > > -- > > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael > Emmer, > > Ingo Lalla, Karin Schuler > > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > > D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > > Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/db-wg >
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