Hi,

I'm a bit puzzled on the purpose of adding this. A few notes inline:

On 13 Mar 2026, at 14:11, Jeroen Massar via db-wg <[email protected]> wrote:
> etc. Thus these are publically exposed. And for instance bgp.tools gives a 
> handy overview:
> https://bgp.tools/rir-owner/ch.massar
> https://bgp.tools/rir-owner/nl.coloclue
> 
> if there are objects related to it. (No clue what Benjojo's magic there is, 
> but it is handy ;) )

I imagine this might be https://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/stats/membership/alloclist.txt
Not sure about the ASNs.

>>> We do have the 'org' and related 'organisation' objects but these do not 
>>> directly map to a LIR.
>> 
>> The unique identifier of any organisation in the RIPE database is the 
>> organisation: attribute in the organisation object type, and the org-type: 
>> identifies the organisation as an LIR (or OTHER). 
> 
> But the "organisation" object does not map directly to LIR.

It does when the 'org-type' is 'LIR', right? Every LIR is represented in the 
database by one such object, I thought. Though you are then not required to 
refer that org from every object you have in the RIPE db.

> Thus maybe the correct place is just in the organisation object.

That makes more sense to me, since a regid is just an identifier of certain 
organisations, which already have an LIR-type organisation object.

> Though, it depends on the purpose of why we would add it; knowing which LIR 
> an object exists for would be a good thing, and I do not think all objects 
> have an org reference either, though inetnum/inet6num & amt-num likely yes, 
> thus adding it to organisation would help a lot already to normalize that.

This is the main confusion I have: what does "which LIR an object exists for" 
mean? Sure, I can see the relation in case of an ALLOCATED-BY-RIR inet6num. But 
what about my mntner? My person object? An ASSIGNED PI inet6num? For the 
latter, I suppose you could link the sponsoring LIR, but their relation is 
quite distant.

It sounds like you're trying to attach all objects in the RIPE db to a specific 
LIR, but I think that does not make sense for all objects, and I'm also not 
sure what the purpose is.

Sasha
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