Commercial databases have commercial support behind them, that's what is driving it.  
Most non-IT companies, do not want to invest in internal departments that are 
responsible for supporting an open source software product.  Until a giant like IBM, 
HP, or similar puts their support behind an open source db product, you will not see 
wide enterprise adoption of them.  And I totally agree with the CIOs, CEOs, etc...  
Money is not necessarily an issue, at least it's not when it comes to business 
continuity.

Here is a good example.  We sold a large company on SuSE (before Novell bought them 
and put their support behind them).  My sales guy was great, but 7 months later they 
ran into a support issue and SuSE at the time offered 24/7 enteprise support from 
Germany.  No problem right, well they called to get an answering machine, send an 
email that came back with questions about the specifics.  In the case of a large 
corporation, they would either send someone on site within 4 hours, or help by phone 
right away.  There is also the risk of a small company going under, etc...

Not many companies are willing to take the risk these days, that's why other benefits 
are important.  Before Linux became enterprise ready, with Novell, IBM, HP support 
behind it, you rarely saw any public company adapt it in mission critical 
environments, that has now changed.  Though this is a case for open source DBs right 
now and because IBM has their own db product, they won't put support behind MySQL and 
PostgreSQL.

Ilya Sterin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: JupiterHost.Net [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:23 PM
> To: Terry Maragakis
> Cc: Tim Bunce; Dave Mullen - Marikina CGI; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: DBI Module.
> 
> 
> 
> > Licensing may not be an issue with mysql but it is an issue 
> with commercial databases.
> > 
> > I use Informix with hundreds of users accessing the 
> database for extremely short queries from a GUI. I cannot 
> afford to have them connected constantly, I would have to 
> spent $100,000 per server in licensing. Having them connect 
> and disconnect for every query has cost me about $3,000 per 
> server using concurrent user licensing.
> 
> Oi, Why would anyone want to pay thousands for that when there are so 
> many free ones that work the same or better?
> 
> Tell you what, I'll build you an SQL server for the low low price of 
> $10,000 incuding the hardware, OS, and database system.
> 
> I'd make about $9000 on the deal for doing hardly anything at 
> all, which 
> is what the informix people seem to be doing :)
> 
> Or I'll license you the same server that you can have persistant 
> connections and unlimited queries for $3000 a year.
> 
> That way your apps will be faster running persistantly and you don't 
> have to worry about too many queries costing you too much.
> 
> Does it really charge bases on the amount of queries or 
> connection time?
> 
> I'm sure everyone has reasons for tossing cash into the fire 
> but I'm not 
> real clear on why...
> 
> Just .02 from a MySQL guy (IE mostly ignorant of the others 
> by choice) :)
> 
> Sorry for being sort of OT, won't happen again :)
> 

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