Hello,

I've been lurking here and popping in once in awhile. Since I've been given 
permission to express myself here, I wanted to just go ahead and share.  First, 
I am not looking for a debate or argument and will not do it. 

The crux of the matter is that I've noticed that when people talk about people 
who speak in tongues, they have done it with a harsh and judgmental tone. My 
spirit is grieved to see such dissention and hardness. I also noticed that 
there was legalism. If anyone worships differently, IE doesn't worship on 
Saturday, then they aren't obeying God. If anyone speaks in tongues, they are 
holier than thou and think they know it all and know when the Lord is coming.

First of all, you have to love each other anyway. I am a Sunday worshiper. I 
don't plan to change that. Second of all, I am one of those Christians who 
speaks in tongues and I was very offended to read some of those harsh comments. 
I resent being thought of as a know it all and someone who knows when the Lord 
is returning. That is apostasy!!! That is crazy! Also, when it was said that 
someone was just speaking a bunch of garbage, well, tongues isn't to edify us, 
it is to edify the Lord. Look at First Corinthians 14 verses 6 through 25 to 
learn more about speaking in tongues. Yes, when someone gets up in front of a 
group and starts speaking in tongues, then there should certainly be an 
interpreter and if not the Pastor should stop it. When people are praying and 
they start to speak in tongues, that is considered a prayer language and it is 
a time of prayer, praise and worship. Tongues is used during spiritual warfare, 
or heavy praise. It is not used to be a show thing, and yes, if you don't speak 
in tongues, you are still saved and going to heaven. 

I think that to say the spiritual gifts are dead for today is like saying God 
is changeable. 

I want to be obedient to God at all times. My heart cries out to be obedient to 
God and to be always on the same page as He is. I love to deeply worship Him 
with hands raised. I have dreams and visions from God all the time and it 
doesn't mean I'm mentally ill--it means I am wanting to receive and hear from 
God. Now, I do lean on the Lord's word. If a dream or vision doesn't line up 
with scripture, then it isn't from God; it's as simple as that! I do not 
appreciate being lumped in and judged as those who want to give tongues and 
spiritual gifts a bad name. Yes, there are those out there giving true 
believing charismatic a bad name, and those people out there may as well be 
following Satan. I'm not kidding. I've been to those churches and was equally 
grieved. I've seen a lot spiritually, and I can never believe that the 
spiritual gifts are deat for today.  Furthermore, I am grieved when I read of 
devotionals that espouse the views that you're not an obedient Christian if you 
don't worship on Saturday, or you're in error if you speak in tongues. We need 
to lift each other up, and this is not uplifting to read things that put down 
another's beliefs. We all need to be encouraging each other and praying for 
each other. If you don't think someone is following God, then you pray for that 
person and listen to what God tells you to do or not do. Obey Him. I will not 
keep silent for I know that if I speak the truth of what I have witnessed, it 
will set me free. 

Saying that the spiritual gifts are dead for today is like putting God in an 
air tight box. I'm sorry... I won't be doing that to God. No amount of arguing 
or debating with me will change what I believe. It will only succeed in making 
me hold fast to the Lord and the beliefs He's given me even stronger. 

Finally, we need to be careful with our words. Sticks and stones may break my 
bones and both names and words do hurt me. If you're honest with yourselves, 
you will note that they hurt you too. they might not be the same words to hurt 
me as those that hurt you. Since we are a diverse group, I really urge you all 
to be soft with your words. I'm saying all including me, because It would be 
course and demeaning to go around, singling people out and pointing a finger. 
I'll let God take care of it from here. Showing facts and scripture is one 
thing, but being harsh and judgmental is completely unacceptable. I also urge 
you to not close the door on God and put Him in a box. Religion needs to be 
balanced with the personal spiritual daily walk with Jesus. God is the 
Word--listen to Him. Look at John and Genesis. You'll find it there.  Look at 
Romans. What does Romans say about how to deal with people who have other 
beliefs that you don't?  Read Romans chapter by chapter and don't look up 
anything. Ask God. Be quiet after reading and just let him speak to you. the 
Word is God. Whoever is open to the message of the lord--let him receive.

Sean, River, and my feathered friend Marvin
Walking and living in Victory!
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