Neither of these are acceptable; please review the IRC logs where I
explained the design constraints involved.

I can only see you mentioned Moose as the future basis of DBIC.  I
need to admit I don't see how this is in contradiction with any of
those proposals - even if I do see that when we have Moose then
perhaps neither is needed any more.
I can also see that you say that many_to_many are not real relations -
I covered that point in my email.

It would be helpful if you were not so cryptic and just wrote what you think.

--
Zbyszek

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