Hi, On 4/10/16 1:15 AM, "Ashley Pond V" <a...@sedition.com> wrote:
>RIBASUSHI has given this codebase a tremendous amount of care, >improvement, and deft effort. I am a user and evangelist of DBIC since >it was the first fork of CDBI that started to solve so many problems. >Peter has solved many problems since. > >My view: MST must be respected but I personally defer to RIBASUSHI and >his judgement. I say, what he says, goes. He has earned the benefit of >the doubt. At least until it can be clearly demonstrated the approach >is harming the code base should that ever become the case. +1, I could not have written this better. Bye, > >Ashley > >On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Darren Duncan <dar...@darrenduncan.net> >wrote: >> Peter, >> >> Regardless of what else happens, I very much would look forward to you >> finishing up and shipping all the code changes you spent the last year >> working on. It sounds like you're almost done them, and I don't want >>all >> that effort to go to waste. >> >> I trust you that this work would provide an island of stability of >>sorts, >> and a version that people can continue to use for the extended term >>whether >> others choose to just maintain that or choose to make major changes of >>their >> own, your stable version would still be there as a useful legacy. >> >> Given that your remaining time is limited, I request that you don't >>halt on >> the code until the 8th as mentioned, unless you need to rest anyway, >>and use >> the time you have to try and finish what you started and leave a better >> legacy. >> >> Thank you for all your effort over the last years. >> >> -- Darren Duncan >> >> >> On 2016-10-03 2:32 PM, Peter Rabbitson wrote: >>> >>> On 10/03/2016 10:37 PM, David Golden wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> <snip> >>>> >>>> In the ensuing discussion, Peter disclosed additional details about >>>>his >>>> plans for the future of DBIC >>> >>> >>> Given the discussion generated way more interest than I anticipated, at >>> this >>> point I am pausing all activity ( both code and administrative changes >>>), >>> until >>> at least the 8th of October. I want to give ample time for all >>>interested >>> parties to state their thoughts. >>> >>> From my side, in order to highlight the main "point of contention" if >>>you >>> will, >>> I am pulling together several pieces from the aforementioned threads: >>> >>>> How much more concerning, then, to discover in the last few days >>>> that you have seen your DBIC-related activities since December as >>>> effectively winding up the project, rather than preparing to leave >>>> it to others. >>>> ... >>>> I know a bunch of the the pending changes are not ready to merge (or >>>> "sub-par" if you will); this is because I haven't had the motivation >>>>to >>>> put more work into them >>>> ... >>>> I suspect if we managed to get all of the branches >>>> people had planned that were delayed because riba's response to the >>>> proposed >>>> features was "yes, but please wait for me to finish X first" done then >>>> that >>>> work in itself might be a major release's worth. >>>> ... >>>> While I get that its (n.b. DBIC) depended on a fair bit, I don't think >>>> that >>>> means being *perfect* to the exclusion of all experimentation. I >>>>don't >>>> think >>>> I've come across other bits of CPAN, apart from maybe the ones in >>>>core, >>>> that >>>> attempt to be as rigorous in their perfection. Really, if people >>>> upgrade, >>>> and encounter an issue .. they can either downgrade and wait, or >>>>pitch >>>> in >>>> and help (or pay someone to).. this is open source after all. >>> >>> >>> While the project does not have a bright future under my (now likely >>>moot) >>> plan, >>> the approach indicated above is, in my opinion, the worst possible >>> direction, >>> one I worked really hard to save this codebase from. >>> >>> Nevertheless, if nobody else finds this problematic: I will step aside >>>and >>> let >>> an eager community, inadvertently suppressed all these years, steer >>>this >>> project >>> further. >>> >>> Regards >>> RIBASUSHI >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbix-class >> IRC: irc.perl.org#dbix-class >> SVN: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/repos/bast/DBIx-Class/ >> Searchable Archive: >> http://www.grokbase.com/group/dbix-class@lists.scsys.co.uk > >_______________________________________________ >List: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbix-class >IRC: irc.perl.org#dbix-class >SVN: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/repos/bast/DBIx-Class/ >Searchable Archive: >http://www.grokbase.com/group/dbix-class@lists.scsys.co.uk _______________________________________________ List: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbix-class IRC: irc.perl.org#dbix-class SVN: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/repos/bast/DBIx-Class/ Searchable Archive: http://www.grokbase.com/group/dbix-class@lists.scsys.co.uk
