Matt,
Thanks for chiming in. Since the voting period is over, it looks like the
proposal has passed. Since Frew has firstcome, I believe the next steps are
his.

Cheers

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Matt S Trout <m...@shadowcat.co.uk> wrote:

> This doesn't appear to have fully displayed in the web archives so I'm
> replying-to-self with the full text quoted in the hopes that works to give
> people something they can link to.
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 05:31:56PM +0000, Matt S Trout wrote:
> > A little late to the party, but I needed to get my thoughts straight.
> >
> > I originally intervened because the plan as I then understood it was "end
> > DBIC feature development and transfer ownership to an unknown CPAN
> author who
> > wasn't one of the main contributors so far as I could tell" (though of
> course
> > I couldn't be sure because I didn't know - and still don't - who it was
> > intended to be).
> >
> > From my point of view "end feature development" is effectively
> equivalent to
> > "declare project over" (and that seems to be a relatively common POV, as
> the
> > responses to a certain recent perl.com article have made quite
> visible), and
> > I felt that the community should have some input into so momentous and
> > potentially irrevocable a decision.
> >
> > The eventual end result of the debate on the list seemed to indicate that
> > continuing to move forward - albeit extremely carefully, as befits an
> > infrastructure level project - was the general consensus, but the sheer
> > vitriol level of the discussion left me substantially burned out in terms
> > of the project.
> >
> > I was *expecting* that one or both of "mst recovers from burnout wrt
> DBIC" or
> > "community engages and starts making proposals" would happen within a few
> > months; neither did, and it's now a little over a year on and I still
> haven't
> > been able to muster the time and motivation to get things moving forwards
> > again. I was, admittedly, hoping to do that shortly, but given I've been
> in
> > a mental state of "hoping to do that shortly" for about the past year I
> don't
> > think it's reasonable or fair to ask people to rely on it coming true
> *this*
> > time, especially given I don't think I can honestly claim that *I'm*
> convinced
> > I'm not still deluding myself in that regard.
> >
> > So at this point, the decision under discussion is basically "retain the
> > status quo, with the attached risk of de-facto death by good intentions
> that
> > never go anywhere" versus "give the project to the only person other
> than me
> > with a truly in-depth understanding of the architecture who's also the
> only
> > person other than me to have led the project, who's now indicated that
> he is
> > once again willing to do so".
> >
> > I think under the circumstances it's pretty clear which of these options
> > gives DBIC the better odds and best opportunity for ongoing success.
> >
> > As such:
> >
> > +1
> >
> >  -- mst, out.
> >
> > --
> > If you truly love something, set it free.
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