I "fixed" this in the following way: I create new DataContext for every query 
which requires fresh data.

Andrus.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Giacomo Tesio 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 11:58 AM
  Subject: Re: ReadOnly DataContext (aka ObjectTrackingEnabled and 
DeferredLoadingEnabled not implemented)


  Well, so by decison the DbLinq DataContext will always behave differently 
from the Microsoft one?

  
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.data.linq.datacontext.objecttrackingenabled.aspx
 in the remarks report that 
  "Setting this property (ObjectTrackingEnabled) to false improves performance 
at retrieval time, because there are fewer items to track."

  I'm not sure about what items will be tracked when I actually say that they 
should not be tracked.

  But, performance a part, I'd like to be able to really disable the tracking. 
Also becouse I could actually prefer to not get the recently loaded customer 
since it could be changed in the db.


  Giacomo




  On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Pascal Craponne <[email protected]> wrote:

    The identity tracking must not be stopped: within the same DataContext, the 
same request done twice will return twice the same object.
    The things to change are just the SubmitChange() and a few others.



    On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 09:06, Giacomo Tesio <[email protected]> wrote:

      I'll search...
      Actually, what is not so obvious is to really stop the identity tracking.

      This should produce faster DataContext during selects.


      DeferredLoading is actually a big miss. We should address it. 
      We MUST document such a missing feature somewhere visible (since the Linq 
to Sql enable it by default!), or we become like Microsoft which often document 
only what works as expected (actually I did expect that it was working... 
fortunally it sould not be a problem for our design...).

      About the exception, we could throw a NotImplementedException when the 
user explicitly set true to DeferredLoadingEnabled, while not when he set it to 
false.
      We should also throw on each query when deferred loading is enabled (by 
default it is, according to the documentation), but I'm not sure it's 
acceptable...


      Anyway, I think that a list of missing features is every day more urgent!


      That said, what I should change to disable object tracking when 
ObjectTrackingEnabled  is false?


      Giacomo





      On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Pascal Craponne <[email protected]> wrote:

        Pong*.


        Well, apparently the changes are obvious :p
        Just check the value and throw the exceptions when necessary.


        Regarding deffered loading, that's probably not as simple. We had 
threads on it a long time ago, and I suggest you to search in the group 
archives.


        * Answering "pong" to a "ping" is probably just a french joke. Sorry.


        On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 23:56, Giacomo Tesio <[email protected]> wrote:

          Ping! :-D


          Giacomo



          On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Giacomo Tesio <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            Ok
            Here's the relevant documentation and the exceptions thrown.
            Note that we should also consider the LoadOptions property (and the 
DataLoadOption class)

            What shoud be the working plan?


            bool ObjectTrackingEnabled
            Instructs the framework to track the original value and object 
identity for this DataContext.

            Setting this property to false improves performance at retrieval 
time, because there are fewer items to track.

            An exception is thrown:


              a.. If the property is set to false after a query has been 
executed. [1]
              For more information, see the Valid Modes section in DataContext 
              a.. If the property is set to false and SubmitChanges is called. 
[2]


            bool DeferredLoadingEnabled 
            Specifies whether to delay-load one-to-many or one-to-one 
relationships. 

            When false and the code accesses one of these relationships, null 
is returned if the relationship is one-to-one, and an empty collection is 
returned if it is one-to-many. The relationships can still be filled by setting 
the LoadOptions property.

            Deferred loading requires object tracking. Only the following three 
modes are valid:

              a.. ObjectTrackingEnabled = false. DeferredLoadingEnabled is 
ignored and inferred to be false. This behavior corresponds to a read-only 
DataContext.

              b.. ObjectTrackingEnabled = true. DeferredLoadingEnabled = false. 
This situation corresponds to a DataContext that allows users to load an object 
graph by using LoadWith directives, but it does not enable deferred loading. 

              c.. Both are set to true. This is the default.

            The flags may not be changed after a query has been executed. Any 
change after the execution of the first query that uses that DataContext throws 
an exception. [3]






            Exceptions thrown:

            [1]
            System.InvalidOperationException was unhandled
              Message="Data context options cannot be modified after results 
have been returned from a query."
              Source="System.Data.Linq"
              StackTrace:
                   at 
System.Data.Linq.DataContext.set_ObjectTrackingEnabled(Boolean value)
                   at DbLinq.Mssql.Example.Program.Main(String[] args) in 
C:\Projects\Labs\Linq\DbLinq\examples\DbLinq.Tests\Program.cs:line 109
                   at System.AppDomain._nExecuteAssembly(Assembly assembly, 
String[] args)
                   at System.AppDomain.ExecuteAssembly(String assemblyFile, 
Evidence assemblySecurity, String[] args)
                   at 
Microsoft.VisualStudio.HostingProcess.HostProc.RunUsersAssembly()
                   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context(Object 
state)
                   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext 
executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
                   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()
              InnerException: 
            _____________
            [2]
            System.InvalidOperationException was unhandled
              Message="Object tracking is not enabled for the current data 
context instance."
              Source="System.Data.Linq"
              StackTrace:
                   at System.Data.Linq.DataContext.VerifyTrackingEnabled()
                   at System.Data.Linq.DataContext.SubmitChanges(ConflictMode 
failureMode)
                   at System.Data.Linq.DataContext.SubmitChanges()
                   at DbLinq.Mssql.Example.Program.Main(String[] args) in 
C:\Projects\Labs\Linq\DbLinq\examples\DbLinq.Tests\Program.cs:line 109
                   at System.AppDomain._nExecuteAssembly(Assembly assembly, 
String[] args)
                   at System.AppDomain.ExecuteAssembly(String assemblyFile, 
Evidence assemblySecurity, String[] args)
                   at 
Microsoft.VisualStudio.HostingProcess.HostProc.RunUsersAssembly()
                   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context(Object 
state)
                   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext 
executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
                   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()
              InnerException: 
            _____________
            [3]
            System.InvalidOperationException was unhandled
              Message="Data context options cannot be modified after results 
have been returned from a query."
              Source="System.Data.Linq"
              StackTrace:
                   at 
System.Data.Linq.DataContext.set_DeferredLoadingEnabled(Boolean value)
                   at DbLinq.Mssql.Example.Program.Main(String[] args) in 
C:\Projects\Labs\Linq\DbLinq\examples\DbLinq.Tests\Program.cs:line 109
                   at System.AppDomain._nExecuteAssembly(Assembly assembly, 
String[] args)
                   at System.AppDomain.ExecuteAssembly(String assemblyFile, 
Evidence assemblySecurity, String[] args)
                   at 
Microsoft.VisualStudio.HostingProcess.HostProc.RunUsersAssembly()
                   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context(Object 
state)
                   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext 
executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
                   at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()
              InnerException: 
            _____________



            On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Pascal Craponne 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              Well, I suggest that you list all effects of such parameter 
(exceptions thrown when specific methods are called), and then we'll see how to 
implement them.

              Pascal.

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              msn: [email protected]





              On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:37, Giacomo Tesio <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                Hello everybody!
                I've figured now that we could need a readonly DataContext for 
security reasons.
                In 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.data.linq.datacontext.deferredloadingenabled.aspx
 it is said that that would be possible, by setting 
DataContext.ObjectTrackingEnabled = false.

                Actually those two proprerty required to get such a behaviour 
throws NotImplementedException.

                I could try to implement them, at least to get the readonly 
behaviour (which even if not trivial, should be possible in a reasonable time).

                Can someone get me an overview of the required modifications 
and point me to the place to start?


                Giacomo
































  

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